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a question for all caretakers out there...

what does one do when you request workwear for your newly required job as a 'site supervisor', and the employer replies by saying...

"tell us what you want, and explain why you want us to supply it to you, by explaining what jobs you have done where this workwear would have helped"

my jaw dropped...and I replied by saying...

"well, if you ask me to carry out general diy work around the school, and I don't have the correct PPE, then i'll have to wait till the workwear is ordered and finally arrives."

the stand off is on going....

the school has a 'budget' issue, but has the money to decorate the building with designer items!...huh?!

bearing in mind what the average School Caretaker has to put up with, should this be the norm for employees?
 
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This straight of the direct.gov website http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/HealthAndSafetyAtWork/DG_4016686


The employer's duty of care in practice
All employers, whatever the size of the business, must:

•make the workplace safe
•prevent risks to health
•ensure that plant and machinery is safe to use, and that safe working practices are set up and followed
•make sure that all materials are handled, stored and used safely
•provide adequate first aid facilities
•tell you about any potential hazards from the work you do, chemicals and other substances used by the firm, and give you information, instructions, training and supervision as needed
•set up emergency plans
•make sure that ventilation, temperature, lighting, and toilet, washing and rest facilities all meet health, safety and welfare requirements
•check that the right work equipment is provided and is properly used and regularly maintained
•prevent or control exposure to substances that may damage your health
•take precautions against the risks caused by flammable or explosive hazards, electrical equipment, noise and radiation
•avoid potentially dangerous work involving manual handling and if it can't be avoided, take precautions to reduce the risk of injury
•provide health supervision as needed

provide protective clothing or equipment free of charge if risks can't be removed or adequately controlled by any other means

•ensure that the right warning signs are provided and looked after
•report certain accidents, injuries, diseases and dangerous occurrences to either the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) or the local authority, depending on the type of business
 
If they are going to employ you, then surly they have a duty to supply the necessary PPE, this should include suitable footwear, glasses /goggles, gloves, bump hat, and ear defenders.
Work clothing should also be provided, with spare sets, for laundry rotation.

Wotan.
 
This straight of the direct.gov website http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/HealthAndSafetyAtWork/DG_4016686


The employer's duty of care in practice
All employers, whatever the size of the business, must:

•make the workplace safe
•prevent risks to health
•ensure that plant and machinery is safe to use, and that safe working practices are set up and followed
•make sure that all materials are handled, stored and used safely
•provide adequate first aid facilities
•tell you about any potential hazards from the work you do, chemicals and other substances used by the firm, and give you information, instructions, training and supervision as needed
•set up emergency plans
•make sure that ventilation, temperature, lighting, and toilet, washing and rest facilities all meet health, safety and welfare requirements
•check that the right work equipment is provided and is properly used and regularly maintained
•prevent or control exposure to substances that may damage your health
•take precautions against the risks caused by flammable or explosive hazards, electrical equipment, noise and radiation
•avoid potentially dangerous work involving manual handling and if it can't be avoided, take precautions to reduce the risk of injury
•provide health supervision as needed

provide protective clothing or equipment free of charge if risks can't be removed or adequately controlled by any other means

•ensure that the right warning signs are provided and looked after
•report certain accidents, injuries, diseases and dangerous occurrences to either the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) or the local authority, depending on the type of business


gob smacked. :eek:

the hair on the back of my neck are standing....

the man from cap*ta came down and advised the head of the school, without me being there, that they should put the responsibility on the Site supervisor to prove he needs these items, thus reducing the cash spent!
 
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Give them a copy of this
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/2966/contents/made
and then ask them why you should not be supplied with the correct PPE
This should clinch it
4.—(1) Every employer shall ensure that suitable personal protective equipment is provided to his employees who may be exposed to a risk to their health or safety while at work except where and to the extent that such risk has been adequately controlled by other means which are equally or more effective.
They are breaking the law if they don't comply.
 
WTF is cap*ta :confused: - tell them you want an anal adapter for a specialised broom - so you can repair the (neglected **** hole that is probably the) school and stick a broom up your arse and sweep the floors @ the same time :mrgreen: Makes me sick - just another example of the little britain culture - Join a Union M8 - if you`re still allowed to :rolleyes:
 
Can he use a condom, in case there is anything nasty on the broom handle adaptor :?:
or some lubricant to avoid chaffing :?:
 
one must don their hard hat , put on their gloves and eye protection, then ear defenders, before placing the broom handle in such a confined space.obviously prior to all this a full risk assessment woud have to be filled out in triplicate. then when your ready, beenndd oovveeerr. :eek:
 
Can he use a condom, in case there is anything nasty on the broom handle adaptor :?:
or some lubricant to avoid chaffing :?:

probably not,
as a risk assessment hasnt been carried out properly.

why dont you turn up in your suit,and then do a risk assessment on everything that is required for your job,then say you require an assistant to carry out these jobs as your now classed as a manager. :LOL:
 
WTF is cap*ta :confused: - tell them you want an anal adapter for a specialised broom - so you can repair the (neglected s**t hole that is probably the) school and stick a broom up your a**e and sweep the floors @ the same time :mrgreen: Makes me sick - just another example of the little britain culture - Join a Union M8 - if you`re still allowed to :rolleyes:

Capita Symmons...soon to take over the world!...
 
Obviously you would be able to identify some jobs that would need protective clothing and if in the event that your clothing got damaged they should pay for it. Where I worked there was a dress code that stated that arms and legs must be covered otherwise in the event of an accident the arms and legs would be covered and lessen the damage. This stopped people from working in shorts. Apart from that you could work in any bits of clothing you wanted to and look quite funny since there is no dress code. Perhaps you should ask them what it is. Seeing a man in overalls in a school would identify you as the maintenance man which is a good thing.

Sounds like you dealing with complete aholes.
 
Give them a copy of this
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/2966/contents/made
and then ask them why you should not be supplied with the correct PPE
This should clinch it
4.—(1) Every employer shall ensure that suitable personal protective equipment is provided to his employees who may be exposed to a risk to their health or safety while at work except where and to the extent that such risk has been adequately controlled by other means which are equally or more effective.
They are breaking the law if they don't comply.

"then ask them why" is the core statement I believe.

instead of " why I need these general gripper gloves"

removing the wrongfully placed responsibilty from my shoulders, in the worse case scenario, i hurt myself, and have to take the blame for it, as i was the one who requested these PPE!
 
Obviously you would be able to identify some jobs that would need protective clothing and if in the event that your clothing got damaged they should pay for it. Where I worked there was a dress code that stated that arms and legs must be covered otherwise in the event of an accident the arms and legs would be covered and lessen the damage. This stopped people from working in shorts. Apart from that you could work in any bits of clothing you wanted to and look quite funny since there is no dress code. Perhaps you should ask them what it is. Seeing a man in overalls in a school would identify you as the maintenance man which is a good thing.

Sounds like you dealing with complete aholes.

complete aholes...happened to be a small state run referal school, soon to be visited by OFSTED!...hence the designer blinds!

did I mention..all staff from the Head to the teachers are FEMALE? :eek:
 
WTF is cap*ta :confused: - tell them you want an anal adapter for a specialised broom - so you can repair the (neglected s**t hole that is probably the) school and stick a broom up your a**e and sweep the floors @ the same time :mrgreen: Makes me sick - just another example of the little britain culture - Join a Union M8 - if you`re still allowed to :rolleyes:

Union?

the only union leaflets hanging on the school walls are Unison.

who would you suggest?

(lets make arthur scargill proud!)
 
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