Spare a thought for the 'poor' muslims

That's the thing that really pi$$es me off too.
We are allowed to refer to some social groups in disparaging terms, but not others.

Why?

I suspect it is because the trendy lefty liberals who decide what is and what is not acceptable feel that some members of our society are in need of 'protection' whilst others are not. Indigenous white Anglo-Saxon people are obviously in the latter category, but I fear that the tables are now beginning to turn.

I have said before that I believe in fair treatment of everyone (legally) present in this country but, like positive discrimination, punishing some for what they say and not others is far from treating us all equally.

(Edit: I see the automatic censor is back in action again! :LOL:)

I can see why someone who says "Black b'stard" to someone would not be suitable in the police force or as a teacher. You could not have a racist in such a job. But I have trouble with the idea that insulting a black person is legally worse than insulting a white person. It creates a sense of injustice, as you demonstrate.
Oi, that was my quote, not Nosey's!
Nevertheless, that's exactly what I meant.

Anyway, it is the not giving a job to someone, or allowing them into a building, or behaving aggressively to them, because of their race that is surely the real issue.
Yes, I agree, but the problem is that it should work both ways:
I am against positive discrimination and lowering of standards just to ensure that certain ethnic groups are equally represented. The same standards should apply to all, and if some don't meet them, they should not get in.
If 'black only' clubs (for example) are permissible, then why not 'white only' clubs?
As I said before, equality means everyone being treated the same way regardless of race or gender. A shame that we do not have true equality in this country.
 
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I can see why someone who says "Black b'stard" to someone would not be suitable in the police force or as a teacher. You could not have a racist in such a job. But I have trouble with the idea that insulting a black person is legally worse than insulting a white person. It creates a sense of injustice, as you demonstrate. Anyway, it is the not giving a job to someone, or allowing them into a building, or behaving aggressively to them, because of their race that is surely the real issue.

But you think that insulting a Jew is a criminal offence and needs a special word like anti-semitic. Make you mind up gobbler.
 
If 'black only' clubs (for example) are permissible, then why not 'white only' clubs?

Yes.
I've been thinking,
What about if a sales company wanted to hire a new door-to-door salesman in a predominantly black area of London .
I think by law they would have to interview everyone regardless of colour or religion.
But no point giving the job to whitey, his sales figure would be crap in said area though.
They can't advertise for a black man, yet that would be the only man/or woman for the job.

The same the other way around.

So discrimination of some forms kinda makes sense.???
 
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Well why don't they have all black Macdonald's then in black areas? The black customers wouldn't buy off white people. (according to you).
 
They would still be buying from white people. If i went around selling mobiles at give away prices - you think they'd say 'no thanks'?
 
In terms of employing people 90, for certain jobs, it must go on.
Employers must do it. don't they.????
 
Ok, company in predominantly muslim area needs door-to-door Burkha sales people.

Who are they gonna hire ??? whitey or a muslim ???

Get real.
 
Ok, company in predominantly muslim area needs door-to-door Burkha sales people.

Who are they gonna hire ??? whitey or a muslim ???

Get real.

Black, white or yellow. If they come to my door I'll tell them to F off.
 
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This reminds me of work. We have two East Europeans.

One would sing, sometimes out loud. In an office that is not on. So I asked her, in private, not to sing as it prevented me working. I'd spent many hours unable to think. (It was bloody awful.) So for the next four months I was bullied, and subjected to insults, put downs and snide remarks. The two of them once spent 30 minutes telling me I had mental problems because I was intolerant. :rolleyes: One manager told her to her face "Shut up, it's horrible." Most people are frightened of her.

The other has tantrums. Sometimes she blows up. One day she came in to find her ethernet cable unplugged. So I had a day of dirty looks and anger from her. It wasn't even me that unplugged it. I'm often told off for anodyne humour. I call the more senior person 'his nibs'. He grins. She looked it up in a dictionary and told me off. No understanding of English/British humour. She once asked me what I though of the plums in the kitchen. (We sometimes share things. There were some yuck plums.) I said they were too soft. So she blew up aggressively telling me "Not hard enough for hard men". :rolleyes: I could go on.

I noticed that in Radio 4 comedies, East European women are portrayed as tough. There is one in a WW2 drama who "kills Nazis with bare hands". There is one called Gnarly (spelling?) in Clare in the Community, who is tough. Mmm, sometimes Auntie Beeb gets it spot on.

I've never met such aggressive frightening people as these East European women.

Anyway, back to the thread, it seems to me a large influx of people from one particular culture can create problems. Most Pakistanis are decent people, but they do come from a different culture. So do Poles, and Ukrainians, and Hungarians. It'll be interesting to see if we get an influx of East European mafia gangs. They did in Israel when lots of Russian Jews emigrated to Israel. Maybe we'll just get nice Pierogi. Or electrical wiring in houses that does not conform to Part P regs.
 
W W Turkeys>>>>>> That's just a small example of why races and cultures rarely mix well and as a rule prefer the company of people from a shared background with shared values. The powers that be drone on about all this equality and diversity bo11ox, but as you've discovered, it's us ordinary plebs that need to handle the myriad disadvantages every day. I expect they only meet other nationalities when they hire a cheap, foreign nanny.

Idiots who drone on about the wonders of a multicultural society, rarely practice what they preach.
 
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