Get away with lining this?

budest · 26 Jul 2015

Hey guys,

In a perfect world I'd get the walls skimmed but doing this job for my mother and there's a whole house to get done so I'm looking more at lining the walls. Question I have is how decent a job of covering the old paint would lining paper do? Would the outline still be visible under lamp light at night? I'm a competent enough decorator so that isn't an issue. Just want the finished job to be a good one.

The brother had suggested the laborious task of us using a heat gun to remove the paint. Opinions on this?

Thanks guys as always

budest · 26 Jul 2015

Has anyone used Removall 220 on jobs like this?

oldbutnotdead · 26 Jul 2015

You'd almost certainly wreck the plaster with a heat gun. If you've got a wallpaper stripper handy (one of the steam ones) it might be worth a try but don't go spending money on one.
Can you feel a paint ridge with your fingernail when you run it across the wall-if not then heavy lining paper will do the job (the thick stuff not the thin stuff)

budest · 26 Jul 2015

oldbutnotdead said:
You'd almost certainly wreck the plaster with a heat gun. If you've got a wallpaper stripper handy (one of the steam ones) it might be worth a try but don't go spending money on one.
Can you feel a paint ridge with your fingernail when you run it across the wall-if not then heavy lining paper will do the job (the thick stuff not the thin stuff)

Thanks mate. I used a steamer on the walls and whilst some paint came off what you see left didn't. Maybe it would with a lot of attention but again I fear weakening the plaster.

There is a slight ridge and I can't help think it would show through the paper which is a pity. Have you ever used Removall 220? Can't find much out about it but what I can seems positive.

oldbutnotdead · 26 Jul 2015

No I haven't - did Google it after your mention. Looks fairly pricey- 2 sq m/litre and may need multiple applications..... at £33 for 3 litres that'll add up. What sort of paint is it- gloss or emulsion (I'm guessing gloss). I don't know what caustic soda would do to the plaster but a fairly concentrated solution might sort the paint out (try in a discreet area first).
Or (given how easy lining paper is to put up) bang a roll on and see what happens- worst case is you have to strip it off which won't be the end of the world (with the heavy duty paper)

Bosswhite · 27 Jul 2015

Just feather out the worst of the ridges with a fine surface filler a good rub down to smooth off, it would help to put a coat of thinned Matt Emulsion on the walls
then size the walls, the matt emulsion will help to make the lining paper more easier to slide into position, a good thick lining paper should cover up the worst areas.

Mattatooi · 27 Jul 2015

Just take the paint off with your steamer to make it a little easier to get off then get under it and it should come off. Because you have taken most of it off already... and it looks like you have a steamer. Why bother with hassle of lining paper? Time it take you to get all lining paper and get organised to do that, the wall would have the paint off it. Only from this 1 picture can i make that judgment... If you have entire house like this, then maybe. But i doubt it.

Some people have different standards though.

budest · 28 Jul 2015

Thanks guys for all the advice. I am going to try some paint remover today along with a better scraper and see how I get one. I'll update this and let you know.

oldbutnotdead · 28 Jul 2015

One thought just occured to me- try hitting the stuff with a hairdryer, it should warm the paint enough to soften it but shouldn't get hot enough to bother the plaster.

misterhelpful · 28 Jul 2015

This kind of scraper will usually remove most paint that hasn't bonded with the plaster without the need for heat or steam. Better models are available - have you tried one?
http://www.screwfix.com/p/heavy-duty-scraper-4/16530

emilybronte · 29 Jul 2015

Re paper, Wallrock Fibreliner Plus (the thickest you can get - I think it's 180) covers a multitude of surface imperfections really well. It comes in 3 widths too, inc. 1 m wide, which makes the job much faster. It's more expensive than ordinary lining paper (I pay about £32 for 20 sq m online via Gowallpaper) and you are advised to use their own readymixed adhesive (£15 for 10 litre tub, which is usually enough for at least 2 rooms), but it's really tough stuff and looks like a smooth plastered wall when done.

Takes paint beautifully.

budest · 30 Jul 2015

I tried some paint remover and whilst it did work it was a challenge and required a lot of patience. Even at that the surface wasn't left to my satisfaction.

Going to line a wall tomorrow and see how it turns out. What do you all think, will the patchy paint show through heavy lining paper in night light?

emilybronte · 30 Jul 2015

Yes, it will show through ordinary lining paper, even 2000 grade.

No, it will not show through Wallrock Fibreliner.

Be told!

oldbutnotdead · 31 Jul 2015

I'd try heavy lining paper first- do a roll (cost £5 for 5 sq m and a couple of hours) and see how it goes. Plan B would be the super duper stuff at £1.80/sq m

budest · 31 Jul 2015

emilybronte said:
Yes, it will show through ordinary lining paper, even 2000 grade.

No, it will not show through Wallrock Fibreliner.

Be told!

Been looking into that thanks. You sure you don't work for them lol

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