'Swarm'

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Cameron could have been referring to a swarm of worker bees who want to come here and make life sweeter for every one.

Yeah, and I'll have some of what you've been smoking.

I think locusts is a more accurate analogy than bees. Perhaps a 'plague' of immigrants?

Rod Liddle makes the fair point that equating immigrants to bees implies that they are coming over here to ruin our picnics, a gross slur on them, I'm sure you will agree. He suggests a charm of immigrants, or an exaltation of immigrants. For politicians I suggest a corruption, or a duckhouse, of politicians. For aging BBC presenters, I suggest a grope of presenters.
 

That seems decidedly biased. No mention of how many used to be from countries now in the EU. Little mention of the hge economic cost to the UK of the current problems at Calais. Saying that they do not come here for benefits because they do not receive them for a year or whatever is irrelevent, what matters is the perception they have, which was not investigated. Robin Lustig, ex BBC presenter, confirming the BBC leftie leaning.
 
That seems decidedly biased.

That's what I thought...hence my confused smiley.

One thing is for sure...they wouldn't want to come to the States to seek asylum...a genuine person like myself (I am, honestly) had to jump through hoops to be allowed in...plus there's no access to any benefits for 40 quarters!!
 
That seems decidedly biased.

That's what I thought...hence my confused smiley.

One thing is for sure...they wouldn't want to come to the States to seek asylum...a genuine person like myself (I am, honestly) had to jump through hoops to be allowed in...

Maybe they prefer performing dogs?

I wondered about emigrating to the US. I have large funds ready for retirement, but doesn't the state pension freeze if you go to the US? So that's £6K per year down the Swannie.
 
Well, that's a tricky one. I'm under 40 so don't/won't have the full amount of contributions required for a full state pension (unless I end up back in the UK at some point). Apparently, you can still claim your pension while living here but with the inevitable taxes, and in the 30 years or so before I am even eligible, it probably won't be worth me claiming it anyway. (Plus, with the way things are going back home, the state pension may be gone altogether by then.) :(
BTW, don't rely on having large funds as reason to think emigrating to the US will be made easier if you really do consider coming - every last detail of your personal history is checked by the FBI and if you have a medical condition (even a minor one) that requires regular treatment, it can count against you. Some of the checks seem a bit pointless but I suppose it does deter those who just want to 'Live the Dream'! My wife is American and I still had to go through all this before we could both move over here, prove that I had a genuine job offer and that my wife could support me with her income if my job was lost for whatever reason - our own personal savings/pensions weren't even looked at. (Not that we're millionaires or anything!) ;)

As for performing dogs, you are probably right...just ask Messrs Blair, Brown and Cameron! :D
 
You'll be back if you need an operation.
 
No chance, joe...I had two shoulder reconstruction ops under the NHS, waiting for a year each time for what was considered 'urgent' surgery and they both failed. At least here, albeit with private health insurance, if I needed such a thing again I could be in within two weeks and the surgeon would be immediately accountable for any failures. The NHS just passed the buck until the next offer of surgery came along. That said, I wouldn't want to see the NHS scrapped in the UK, but it does need an overhaul as far as the bureaucracy is concerned.
 
Haha...I should have realised that would lead to a wisecrack! :LOL:

It's actually 40 contributing quarters so only when you've worked for 10 years can you claim any Social Security (or 10 years combined for a couple because spouses contributions count for each other).
 
America can be a harsh place, especially for the aged poor. I'm all in favour of our NHS, welfare and pension, despite failings. Maybe we should force people to start private pensions. Our problem is that NI contributions go straight into paying pensions, whereas private pensions can invest.
 
If (according to the Huffington Post) they don't want to come here, why are they all heading down the tunnel? Have they all got their map upside down?
 
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