Replacing Ceiling Light

whenisayjump · 2 Sep 2015

Hello,

I'd appreciate anyone taking the time to have a quick look over my post.

I currently have a light fitting I wish to replace:

it looks as thought it replaced as ceiling rose as the wires have all been connected up using those blocks:

I have a new pendant light, a new fitting from Habitat. It is 'double insulated' and comes with the following connector.

It doesn't looks like that little box would be able to contain all of the wires I currently have, so I'm not sure the best way to wire it up. My understanding is that it's double insulated because all the live wires would be in that small box if I had the type of light where all that protruded from the ceiling were the earth/live/neutral. Any advice?

Thanks!
James

securespark · 2 Sep 2015

What does the rest of the fitting look like?

Is there a rose or cup where you could make a joint?

whenisayjump · 2 Sep 2015

The entire fitting looks like this:

Thanks,
James

ban-all-sheds · 2 Sep 2015

Could you get an Ashley J804 through the hole in the ceiling, or can you get access to the void from above?

whenisayjump · 2 Sep 2015

This is the scene from above:

So it does look like I could pull the wires back through, and wire up a junction box. There seems to be enough slack to easily work with them. Would I be able to use a Chocbox to do the connection?

Taylortwocities · 2 Sep 2015

whenisayjump said:
This is the scene from above:

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So it does look like I could pull the wires back through, and wire up a junction box. There seems to be enough slack to easily work with them. Would I be able to use a Chocbox to do the connection?

You can, but the connections must be fully enclosed in a box (a "chocbox")., Also, the box must have a clamp to secure the cables, so thaey do not pull out of the box. The Ashley recommended by BAS does all of this.

Altyernatively, you could use a 4-way junction box screwed to the joists, and clip the cables securely.

whenisayjump · 2 Sep 2015

It all sounds pretty simple. I have noticed this though...

It looks as though the heat of the light has charred the outer casing of that wire. Does that seem dangerous? Maybe I should get someone to do it.

ban-all-sheds · 2 Sep 2015

That type of bulb, and therefore the end caps, run very hot. It probably should not have been wired with that sort of cable.

whenisayjump said:
it does look like I could pull the wires back through

When you do, cut back the damaged cable to soft insulation and bright copper.

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