Damaged drainage pipe repair?

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Hi all

Apologies if this is not the right place to ask, but I'm hoping you can help me with the problem I have. We have hired a gardener for some landscaping work. Yesterday while he was using his kango to remove some concrete on the floor where we want a gravel path instead he damaged a drainage pipe. I am not sure what pipe it is exactly, but it looks like a major one, being around 4.5" diameter. The hole, which you can see below (the grey stone on the left is the bottom of our outside kitchen/utlity room/bathroom wall), is about 1.5" long and .7" at its widest.

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I have 2 questions:

1. The gardener himself claims that the hole was already there. This seems extremely unlikely to me, since there was a layer of concrete right on top of it, and we haven't had any problems with the drainage in the 2 years we've lived here. Also, the standard of his work in general has generally left a few things to be desired, so I am just not sure he really knows what he's doing. Is there any way that a qualified plumber would be able to assess whether the damage is recent or has been there for a long time? The reason I am asking this is that if a repair is costly, I will try to get some compensation from the gardener if an expert can tell me that the damage is recent.

2. What sort of repair is likely to be needed? Can this sort of thing be patched up or will we need a new pipe?

Thanks very much in advance for your advice!
 
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Thanks Andy! From the sound of it, the repair won't be that expensive then, which is a relief. Could I ask how you can see that the hole is new? (By the way, I've just checked the material of the pipe and it seems to be plastic, with the bit coming out of the house apparently being made of clay. I don't know if this is at all relevant to the repair but I thought I'd mention it.)
 
The plastic part is a jointing coupling, those pipes where spigot at both ends with plastic collars slid on to make the joint, you'll find clay pipe on the other side as well.
At that depth there is no way he could have avoided damaging the pipe and is very lucky he didn't do more damage, if it were me I would use a Flexicon coupling & split the rubber and have the split on the opposite side to the hole.
 
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I am disappointed that you "blame" your man for this very minor damage!

Usually building regs require a certain cover depth and I don't expect this has been provided in this case.

He is only a gardener and will do the task reasonably carefully for the purpose.

How was he to know that you had a soil pipe there with inadequate cover?

Tony
 
I would do a simple repair by gluing a cover bit of pipe over it.

Tony
 
Given the shallow depth, I would be getting the rest of the pipe carefully uncovered and exposed, then once the damage is repaired, haunch some concrete over it to protect it from any further damage! I rather suspect that may be draining your toilet.... ;)
 
I dont have time to look it up.

But you probably could!
 
Thanks all for your thoughts. Perhaps I was a little rash in assigning blame to him, but I suppose I thought that as he's a gardener as well as general handyman (with decent reviews on traderregister) he would be aware of the risks of using a kango right at the side of an extension that houses a kitchen, utility room and bathroom, with the sinks, toilet and washing machine all on the side of the house of this pipe. He knows the layout of the inside of the house well. Anyway, he has now offered to repair the damage himself, which to me is a fair solution.
 
A simple repair is pretty quick and I am glad he has agreed to do that.

But in the generality, I don't believe that he was seriously to blame when the pipe was fitted with inadequate cover and protection.

Tony
 
Fair enough Tony; that's the kind of thing I was hoping to learn by posting on here!
 
If he needs to know then he can look them up himself!
 
Play fair - if you're going to suggest building regulations then at least have the decency to reference them!

I look forward to your extensive research!
 

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