Where could I put my stairs?

Screech20 · 6 Feb 2016

Hey guys.

Eventually we will go up into the loft of our bungalow, and recently I've been thinking of where the stairs could go.

I've only come up with one location, and that would be to knock the big bedroom into the kitchen to make a kitchen diner, and put the stairs in the top right corner as you look at this floor plan.

Assume the small bedroom is no longer there- the kitchen and bathroom are both being extended into that space.

Any ideas would be appreciated!

Cheers

bernardgreen · 6 Feb 2016

There might be a restriction ( Building Regulations ) on stairs starting in a room that is a kitchen ( or kitchen diner ). The fire escape route from the loft should not go through the kitchen as that is the room where a fire is most likely to start.

geraldthehamster · 6 Feb 2016

It's also going to depend on what layout you have in mind for the first floor, and where the roof slopes. It will also depend on which walls are structural, if you need to remove any.

In principle I'd be wanting a staircase near an exit, in case anyone needs to escape a fire. So maybe in what is now the bedroom at the bottom of the picture. However, is there no back door?

chappers · 7 Feb 2016

bernardgreen said:
There might be a restriction ( Building Regulations ) on stairs starting in a room that is a kitchen ( or kitchen diner ). The fire escape route from the loft should not go through the kitchen as that is the room where a fire is most likely to start.

But won't be such an issue as you are creating a second storey and not a third

geraldthehamster · 8 Feb 2016

chappers said:
bernardgreen said:

There might be a restriction ( Building Regulations ) on stairs starting in a room that is a kitchen ( or kitchen diner ). The fire escape route from the loft should not go through the kitchen as that is the room where a fire is most likely to start.

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But won't be such an issue as you are creating a second storey and not a third

It's still a fair point from a safety point of view. Although you're more likely to be able to escape from a first floor than a second floor window.

chappers · 8 Feb 2016

geraldthehamster said:
chappers said:

bernardgreen said:

There might be a restriction ( Building Regulations ) on stairs starting in a room that is a kitchen ( or kitchen diner ). The fire escape route from the loft should not go through the kitchen as that is the room where a fire is most likely to start.

Click to expand...

But won't be such an issue as you are creating a second storey and not a third

Click to expand...

It's still a fair point from a safety point of view. Although you're more likely to be able to escape from a first floor than a second floor window.

Indeed and you make a fair point about the stairs and head height into the eaves. Thinking about it the stairs maybe better off in the opposite corner of what is currently the large bedroom.
A much more natural place close to the circulation areas of the house, will also give you better options once you create your new bedrooms upstairs, you will have a more central landing rather than a snaking corridor from the corner to all the bedrooms.

If you're going to all that effort and I assume taking two of the bedrooms upstairs, I would go the whole hog, bring the stairs to somewhere near the front door, open up the whole ground floor retaining a cloakroom and stick all three bedrooms and the bathroom upstairs.

geraldthehamster · 8 Feb 2016

I reiterate my question about the slope of the roof. I've done something similar to this, albeit with a smaller bungalow. I decided the most efficient use of space for the staircase was to remove a couple of joists to create a stairwell, and bring the stairs down following the slope of the roof, with three winders at the bottom. This gave me quiye a high sloping ceiling above the stairs.

Screech20 · 8 Feb 2016

Thanks for the replies.

Yes there is a back door, but it's been cut Out of that image.
It's currently in the kitchen, but would probably make the window in the big bedroom into French doors if that wall was to come out.

I did mean the stairs to start at the back wall, and go up towards the lounge. landing would then be pretty central.

I haven't really got a set layout, got a rough idea in my head but was hoping to get the structural work done, then get up there and see what space I've got to work with. It's all well and good on paper but would rather stand up and and work it out, if that makes sense?

I don't want to lose the front bedroom or bathroom as well, but would like a shower room upstairs too.

Cheers

geraldthehamster · 9 Feb 2016

Can you add the approximate dimensions of the rooms? That would make it clearer where a staircase could fit.

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