Do you think we've been to the moon ?

Do you believe we've been to the moon ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 70.8%

  • No

    Votes: 6 25.0%

  • Agnostic

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Total voters
    24
clubb699 said:
Sat navs back in the day struggle to get us from A-B
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I don't think they used sat nav then.

clubb699 said:
Take off from here is very clinical weather etc
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Weather here always is "clinical.

clubb699 said:
Engineering here is hit and miss break downs, fueling blah blah
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Average price (not cost) of a car is (guess) £20,000
Price of Appolo missions $25 Billion, at todays value about $150 Billion. About the same GDP as Ukraine, New Zealand, Kuwait, etc.

clubb699 said:
So lets get this right we are going to take off in perfect conditions, fly through bands of radition, get to and from A-B in the perfect flight lines, land and take off again in perfect conditions, fly back without a problem just seems they were very very very lucky to do all this specially 50 years ago lol
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At 7.5 Million times the cost of an average car at todays prices.
If we didn't go to the moon, where's all that money gone?
 
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clubb699 said:
So lets get this right we are going to take off in perfect conditions, fly through bands of radition, get to and from A-B in the perfect flight lines, land and take off again in perfect conditions, fly back without a problem just seems they were very very very lucky to do all this specially 50 years ago lol
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Very lucky indeed. Folks were so stupid back then.

And as for moon weather....

Oh....lol....
 
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clubb699 said:
Sat navs back in the day struggle to get us from A-B

Take off from here is very clinical weather etc

Engineering here is hit and miss break downs, fueling blah blah



So lets get this right we are going to take off in perfect conditions, fly through bands of radition, get to and from A-B in the perfect flight lines, land and take off again in perfect conditions, fly back without a problem just seems they were very very very lucky to do all this specially 50 years ago lol
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It's as if they had 5 previous missions to practice, and thousands of scientists and engineers working on the problems.

I wouldn't call the poor souls on Apollo 1 lucky.

In regards to Sat nav, the transit system launched in 64, only stopped broadcasting in the 90s, so was obviously working fairly well to keep going for 30 odd years
 
I've seen in the conspiracies the idea that it was all a deception to help bankrupt the Soviet Union , an idea that seemed plausible when presented. Create a fake space race for your enemies to throw huge sums at . Now if we assume that is correct and the moon landings were fake and filmed in a airforce hanger in order to pursue that concept it would follow that a lot of other missions would also be faked red herrings invented to cause even more expense to the Russians. If we then assume the Russians were taken in by this deception and spent accordingly on a real space program it would follow that the Russians have made far more technological advances than the Americans . Probably embarrassing for those conspiracists .
Conspiracies tend to have ripples that have unforeseen results and involve ever greater numbers of people and I don't for a minute believe what I've put above is true , I do however believe man has set foot on the moon.
 
Lady Lola, interesting theory, however by the Americans filming placing a Stars and Stripes flag on the moon (in a Warehouse in the Nevada Desert:rolleyes:)

the Moon then becomes the Property of America, so Russia would then back off from Space exploration on the moon, and concentrate on other exploration.
Remember what problems were caused by the Argentinians planting a Flag on the Falkland Islands years ago .
 
There's an agreement, I can't remember the name of it now, that no nation can claim territory on other planets/moons.

Just looked it up.....it's called the "moon treaty".:rolleyes:
The Agreement Governing the Activities of States on the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies,[3] better known as the Moon Treaty or Moon Agreement, is an international treaty that turns jurisdiction of all celestial bodies
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Treaty
 
Just looked up the " Moon Treaty" this did not come into force until the mid 1980`s Countries like USA, Russia, China, India have not signed the treaty so it dosent mean a great deal.
In the 1960`s Russia and the USA were head to head in the " Cold War" Russia had Nuclear Missiles pointed at the US just a few miles off the American Coast Line, Third World War seemed inevitable
So America needed to prove it was superior to Russia and a Moon Landing along with the Space wars Scenario in the 1960`s was a good way of telling the World that the USA was a World Leader
 
Bosswhite said:
Just looked up the " Moon Treaty" this did not come into force until the mid 1980`s Countries like USA, Russia, China, India have not signed the treaty so it dosent mean a great deal.
In the 1960`s Russia and the USA were head to head in the " Cold War" Russia had Nuclear Missiles pointed at the US just a few miles off the American Coast Line, Third World War seemed inevitable
So America needed to prove it was superior to Russia and a Moon Landing along with the Space wars Scenario in the 1960`s was a good way of telling the World that the USA was a World Leader in Space Technology
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Bosswhite said:
Just looked up the " Moon Treaty" this did not come into force until the mid 1980`s Countries like USA, Russia, China, India have not signed the treaty so it dosent mean a great deal.
In the 1960`s Russia and the USA were head to head in the " Cold War" Russia had Nuclear Missiles pointed at the US just a few miles off the American Coast Line, Third World War seemed inevitable
So America needed to prove it was superior to Russia and a Moon Landing along with the Space wars Scenario in the 1960`s was a good way of telling the World that the USA was a World Leader
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Yes, you're right. But the treaty is a formulation by UN:
Thus, all activities must conform to international law, including the United Nations Charter.
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So a) it has retrospective functionality, and b) it has international law ramifications.
Thus any nation that chooses to ignore it would be in danger of flouting international assent.
 
Himaginn said:
Bosswhite said:
Just looked up the " Moon Treaty" this did not come into force until the mid 1980`s Countries like USA, Russia, China, India have not signed the treaty so it dosent mean a great deal.
In the 1960`s Russia and the USA were head to head in the " Cold War" Russia had Nuclear Missiles pointed at the US just a few miles off the American Coast Line, Third World War seemed inevitable
So America needed to prove it was superior to Russia and a Moon Landing along with the Space wars Scenario in the 1960`s was a good way of telling the World that the USA was a World Leader
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Yes, you're right. But the treaty is a formulation by UN:
Thus, all activities must conform to international law, including the United Nations Charter.
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So a) it has retrospective functionality, and b) it has international law ramifications.
Thus any nation that chooses to ignore it would be in danger of flouting international assent.
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Ooooh - the UN........countries must be bricking it at the very thought.......
 
Bosswhite said:
Lady Lola, interesting theory, however by the Americans filming placing a Stars and Stripes flag on the moon (in a Warehouse in the Nevada Desert:rolleyes:)
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Not my theory , just one of the many that can be found on the tinterweb . I was merely pointing out a flaw. Either way the Russians did abandon a planned manned moon program shortly after the American landings. In my mind I can't see the yanks faking it all to push the Soviets into what would actually be a technological lead(n)
 
[QUOTE="ladylola, post: 3578282, member: 132952] In my mind I can't see the yanks faking it all to push the Soviets into what would actually be a technological lead(n)[/QUOTE]

Provided that the Soviets
a. Kept at it,
b. Didn't go bankrupt on the way.

As many ifs and buts...
 
Brigadier said:
[QUOTE="ladylola, post: 3578282, member: 132952] In my mind I can't see the yanks faking it all to push the Soviets into what would actually be a technological lead(n)
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Provided that the Soviets
a. Kept at it,
b. Didn't go bankrupt on the way.

As many ifs and buts...[/QUOTE]

Yes quite agree, many ifs and buts. Try replacing "moon landing " with " the most powerful nuclear weapons" and it would seem unlikely that the US would be happy with the Russians having a lead.
 
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