13a Fused single socket advice

[mcdermottc]

Hi

I am moving house and will be removing some appliances (Dishwasher, Fridge, Freezer, Washing Machine) which we cut off the plugs and hard wired into the outlets when we moved into our New Build property. The buyers have said they do not want to hard wire their appliances into the wall outlets and have insisted we replace the fused outlets behind the appliances with 13a & 3a sockets, in which they can simply plug in their own appliances. It seems daft to me since having them hard wired with separate switches above the worktop is a much better method, but hey ho its up to them.
For the appliances which are hard wired but with a separate fused switch above I am going to simply replace the outlet for a non switched single socket. Since it is fused above I assume this will be ok.

My question is the switch above the worktop for some appliances do not however have fuses and instead have the fuse at the wall outlet . My question is how best to fuse this setup. Can you replace this outlet with a single 13a plug socket with fuse ? Do these even exist as I couldn't see any in B&Q only double sized sockets with a single socket and fuse and switch.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Sockets don't come with fuses. The fuses are in the plugs.

 

[mcdermottc]

Thanks EFLImpudence

Would the fuse in the plug suffice then ? So where I have the non fused switch above and replaced this outlet with an unswitched single socket this would be perfectly safe without the need for another fuse somewhere ?

thanks

 

[EFLImpudence]

Yes, that's fine.

 

[mcdermottc]

thanks again EFLImpudence!

I think i was over complicating this in my mind and missing the obvious doh !

 

[EFLImpudence]

 

[ban-all-sheds]

The buyers have .. insisted we replace the fused outlets behind the appliances with 13a & 3a sockets.

How dare they.

That sort of thing is what they do after moving in.

If you are not prepared to tell them to FOAD, start scouring car boot sales for old, mismatched, dirty sockets, put them on as crooked as you can, and don't wire them up so that they work.

 

[winston1]

The buyers have .. insisted we replace the fused outlets behind the appliances with 13a & 3a sockets.

How dare they.

That sort of thing is what they do after moving in.

If you are not prepared to tell them to FOAD, start scouring car boot sales for old, mismatched, dirty sockets, put them on as crooked as you can, and don't wire them up so that they work.

Indeed. Also where do they think you will get 3A sockets as they don't exist?

 

[Taylortwocities]

where do they think you will get 3A sockets as they don't exist?

Are you certain??

3 amp socket

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Why are you making eyes at Winston?

 

[Taylortwocities]

It's a warning about his Thoughtcrimes.

 

[mcdermottc]

The buyers have .. insisted we replace the fused outlets behind the appliances with 13a & 3a sockets.

How dare they.

That sort of thing is what they do after moving in.

If you are not prepared to tell them to FOAD, start scouring car boot sales for old, mismatched, dirty sockets, put them on as crooked as you can, and don't wire them up so that they work.

haha that made me laugh mate !

 

[mcdermottc]

The buyers have .. insisted we replace the fused outlets behind the appliances with 13a & 3a sockets.

How dare they.

That sort of thing is what they do after moving in.

If you are not prepared to tell them to FOAD, start scouring car boot sales for old, mismatched, dirty sockets, put them on as crooked as you can, and don't wire them up so that they work.

Indeed. Also where do they think you will get 3A sockets as they don't exist?

I just don't get why the wouldn't want the current system - They asked for sockets to be installed the 3amp socket was me being daft and forgetting the obvious that the fuse (3amp in the case of fridge or freezer) will be in the plug so I don't need a socket with a fuse just an unfused unswitched socket - hence why i couldn't find any in B&Q haha

 

[winston1]

Because the current system is silly. Appliances come with plugs and are meant to plugged into a socket. Makes it much easier to move them for servicing or replacement.

Ideally the fused connection units above the worktop should be replaced with switches as well as the plugs are fused. These is no need for two fuses in line.

Having said that it's not your job to make the changes. Supposing the sale falls through later and the next buyer wants you to change it back!

A fridge or freezer needs a bigger fuse than 3A due to the start up surge.

 

[flameport]

Ideally, the fused connection units and switches above the worktop should not have been installed in the first place.