Advice sought on powerful yet attractive kitchen extractor

[slup]

Hi

I've got an island extractor over the hob which does a great job with steam and the usual cooking smells - however it is (quite obviously) useless at dealing with smells / smoke / steam from the ovens which are located across the room.

I'm looking for a big, powerful, and most importantly - good looking - extractor fan to go on an outside wall.

It's a standard cavity wall - brick on the outside, block on the inside.

Can anyone offer any suggestions?

Thanks,

Steve

 

[DAZB]

These have a nice range :

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/designer-extractor-fans-1943-0000

 

[ban-all-sheds]

What's above the ovens?

Presumably steam etc (smoke? ) only comes from the ovens when you open the doors - is there room in the top of the housing for a built-in hood - i.e. the sort that hinges outwards from the top?

 

[Steve]

Following from your post ban, an empty cupboard with a fan in the back will do the job. Fit the door opening upwards, with gas struts or something to hold it at whatever angle you choose. Fit the door with a microswitch to activate the fan. If you need a speed control, fit it on the cabinet side, on the side of the oven.

Personally, I like cooking smells. Dont know why someone would want to live in a smell-neutral house. Every house has a characteristic smell.

 

[slup]

Afraid I don't have any cupboards...

One of the things I cook every now and again is crispy duck. This is done at 300 degrees and produces a lot of smoke. I'm more interested in clearing the air than making the place smell 'neutral'...

 

[slup]

What's above the ovens?

Presumably steam etc (smoke? ) only comes from the ovens when you open the doors - is there room in the top of the housing for a built-in hood - i.e. the sort that hinges outwards from the top?

Covered the smoke bit in my previous reply

The ovens are housed side by side in midi tower housings so nothing above them. I do have a soffit above though so you have got me thinking about whether or not I can put something there. The problem with that is that it would be disruptive to a finished room and a very long duct - fitting a wall extractor could be done with minimal hassle.

I'll post a picture of the kitchen in a moment.

Thanks,

Steve

 

[slup]

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• slup
• 31 Jan 2009
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[Steve]

Can you fit a vent in the ceiling between your wasteful halogen lights? Lead it to an inline fan, so it is quiet too.

 

[slup]

Let's skip the comments about the lighting shall we...

Some people prefer style over function. Others are happy with function at the complete expense of style. I took a sensible middle ground - you must have missed noticing that the entire room is illuminated with powerful and efficient cold cathode lighting reflected off the ceiling. The halogens are there for accent lighting...

Anyway... I can't place a vent in the centre of the soffit as there is a UB running the full length of the room. Also, I don't really have anywhere to vent it to without ripping the ceiling down which I don't really want to do.

I have given a lot of thought to this and concluded that something mounted in an external wall would be the best bet.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Let's skip the comments about the lighting shall we...

No - it is the duty of every right thinking person to criticise their use, actual or planned, at every opportunity and hopefully to drive them into extinction.

Some people prefer style over function.

Some people do all manner of harmful things for selfish reasons.

Others are happy with function at the complete expense of style. I took a sensible middle ground - you must have missed noticing that the entire room is illuminated with powerful and efficient cold cathode lighting reflected off the ceiling. The halogens are there for accent lighting...

So you're burning the worlds resources for trivial decorative reasons...

I have given a lot of thought to this

But not at the right time

Where does the hob extractor duct run - could you join onto that?

 

[slup]

Great - let's all move back to a world where we have a single four foot fluorescent fitting in the middle of the kitchen... Not for me I'm afraid...

And you can climb *right* down of your high horse about environmental issues as I buy my electricity from Good Energy which comes from 100% renewable sources.

It is no-ones business but my own how I choose to light my house when I am the *only* one paying for it...

Anyway - to get back on topic, I can't join the existing duct without ripping part of the ceiling down.

And yes, you are right, this was a mistake.

I thought the extractor over the hob would have done a reasonable job - it's rated at 900m3/hr and is connected using 6" ductwork. The problem is that there are about five metres of ducting - that is clearly taking its toll on the feeble fan in the extractor. I also did not use solid ducting which I found out later would have given significantly better performance.

One thing I was considering was connecting another inline extractor to the same duct near the outlet and triggering it from a current sense relay on the island extractor.

Really I just want a wall extractor I think because any other option requires me hacking the ceiling apart...[/url]

 

[ban-all-sheds]

It is no-ones business but my own how I choose to light my house when I am the *only* one paying for it...

Tough. You'll never get me to agree to that - if I believe you merit criticism I will criticise you.

Really I just want a wall extractor I think because any other option requires me hacking the ceiling apart...

You should probably try and get some specialist H&V advice - my concern is that any fan which is remote from the ovens won't actually do much good unless it's so powerful that you risk it sucking up small animals from the floor - next time you can see steam/smoke rising vertically from the ovens think how strong an air current you would need to turn it through 90° and drag it sideways for several metres....

What's on the other side of the wall in what looks like a utility room? Could you run ducting along the ceiling to the outside wall?

 

[DAZB]

Stick up a picture of your house then B-A-S and let's have a pop at you shall we. He has come on here to ask for ventilation advice so leave his house styling out of it. Like he said, he is paying for it and it is no one else's business.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

And like I said - tough.

I am neither refusing to help him as much as I can, nor deliberately misleading him just because I disagree with what he's done with the lighting.

 

[DAZB]

You would be best not bothering then.