Angled isolation/service valves

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I want a wall mounted isolation/service valve for a toilet like this :

http://www.screwfix.com/p/jg-speedf...rch-_-SearchRec-_-Area1&_requestid=362885#_=p

except with the wall flange.

Obviously they are made, found one here :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Designer-...rg=20140407115239&rk=3&rkt=20&sd=160907061840

BUT

this is obviously compression and not push fit, which worries me as once it's in, it's in, and the whole central heating/ water supply is plastic pipe. I want push fit.

Any takers

P.S Has anyone ever used a wall flange with the JG angled valve

:?:
 
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not generally used in the UK

Your ebay link has expired - anything take your fancy here?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...wall+mounted+isolation+valve&_sacat=0[/QUOTE]

Hi newboy thanks for the link you found a cheaper one there =)

The thing is though these are all compression fittings and I'm joining to plastic so is there anything like this WITH a wall flange ?

I'm thinking about phoning JG to ask if I can use their angled valves as per the link but with a wall mounting plate

EDIT : this would look **** though
 
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What about the Toolstation one Luv??
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/d20/Valves/sd2696/90+CP+Isolating+Valve/p82153[/QUOTE]

That's compression and no mounting flange !

The reply should read;
Thanks Mr Puller for taking the time to post the link, can you please confirm if compression fittings would be OK on my plastic pipe system??

My reply;
With 40 years experience in the Plumbing trade, if can safely say yes, along with the correct inserts, you'll not have any problems. Oh, and you can also fit a chrome pipe cover plate is you so desire Luv.
 
What I'd really like to do 'luv' is fit a chrome plate cover onto a plastic push fit valve to avoid the compression.

How's that sound babes ? :LOL:
 
The one that nuboy featured is 1/2" BSP. Your best choice is the one I linked to. Chrome pipe plates are available for 1/2" pipe barrel, so you could fit that over it also. All pushfit fittings are huge, so good luck with that....... ;)

Keep looking sweet cheeks....... :p
 
As tricky Dicky mentioned, compression fittings are perfectly fine on plastic pipe, providing that you use the correct inserts.

A chap who works at one of my local suppliers is currently living in a hotel with his family due to plastic fitting that failed on plastic pipe in his house. This resulted in mains cold water to flood the property during the weekend whilst they were away on a short break. They won't be back in for Xmas. I find that plastic fittings fail more than compression fittings onto plastic pipe.

Personally, I am a 'no plastic pressure pipe installer', my responsibility ends where I join onto existing. I leave the plastic carp to diyer's who think that they are saving a few bob.

James.
 
Ok well I shall do as instructed by you both.

I'll get the elbow Sir Richard mentions

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http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/d20/John+Guest+Speedfit/sd3307/Pipe+Insert+10mm/p34258

( I KNOW THESE ARE THE RIGHT ONES BECAUSE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THAT DRAMA )

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http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/d20/Pipe+Clips/sd2706/Talon+Pipe+Collar+15mm+Chrome/p86783


Yus ?




ONE QUICK QUESTION about a corner toilet I've bought, it allows for the cold feed to come through behind it. and I've boxed in so you don't see any pipework HOWEVER, this means that the service valve can only go in behind the boxing in, is this ok or does the service valve need to be on the outside for immediate access ?
 
So to access the service valve you have to remove the boxing?

Great idea!
 
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You've fallen victim to the style over substance crowd!

In the past, when I've had to install these wonderful design items, you need a long flexicon for both the supply and foul connection so that you can connect everything and test before sliding back against the wall. If it's mounted against a stud wall then the supply can be accessed via a panel on the back of the wall. In your case, if you don't have this option, then you have to put the service valve wherever you feel it is most appropriate - not forgetting that you may need to access it quickly.

For what it's worth, the installations where boxing has to be run up to the side of the pan tend to look a bit weird/lop sided.
 
Fortunately the boxing in INCLUDES the stack containing the AAV.

So there's some depth behind the boxing in for the service valve, i'll just need a square removed to facilitate it. Any suggestions how I can design any access hatch ?

Fortunately the waste at the back comfortably fits around and behind to the stack. I made sure to check this beforehand.

It wasn't so much a 'design' consideration as it was a remedy, because with the boxing in protruding from the wall to cover the stack and pipes behind (approx 170mm deep, 1000mm + high) AND not having enough clear space to one side of the toilet, cornering it was the only option
 

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