Build over agreements - public waste

[phills1]

Does anyone have experiecne of Anglian Water and build over agreements. I have two public wastes running under my garden and the man holes just outside on public land. Run I believe it runs directly under the house and garage extended area.

Anglian Water are not helpful and they documenation has conflicting information - has anyone delt with them and had sucess, any pitfalls to avoid.

 

[noseall]

Does anyone have experiecne of Anglian Water and build over agreements. I have two public wastes running under my garden and the man holes just outside on public land. Run I believe it runs directly under the house and garage extended area.

Anglian Water are not helpful and they documenation has conflicting information - has anyone delt with them and had sucess, any pitfalls to avoid.

Build over has become a by-word for 'money making exercise' in terms of permissions from water companies. However, it is also a way of monitoring their (owned) sewer pipe system.

A savvy builder familiar with how the construction side of things works can be a great help in avoiding bureaucracy and helping the job go smoothly. If however you have large diameter pipes and/or if they are at a decent depth, then I suggest you move.

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

The bottom line is the Water Company own the sewer network, and therefore are also responsible for maintaining it. If your neighbour started doing something that could affect your property, you'd want to know about it, and your assets protecting, which is basically what the Water Companies are doing.

I work for AW, and whilst the sewer map is as accurate as possible, it was ultimately copied from the original drawings available, and does not always 100% correspond to what's on/in the ground. I've been on jobs where a sewer we didn't know existed has been uncovered, smaller diameter house drainage is not recorded due to the amount there would be, and there is currently a campaign to try and locate private pumping stations to get them recorded on the map and bring them 'in house'.

Sewers can be diverted, but depending on size of pipe, distance of diversion, etc., will depend on whether it is cost effective to do anything. Moving a 900mm foul sewer is not cheap.

 

[theprinceofdarkness]

My brother wanted to replace a 1930s lightweight garage with a proper extension to his house. 100' away near the end of the garden there was a little (6" X 4") cast iron flap in the soil. Turned it was a "lamp hole" and he had a 12' diameter sewer pipe under his garage. Thames water wanted 18' height clearance over it so they could get big diggers in to fix the pipe (perhaps). He moved.
Frank

 

[John D v2.0]

Unbelievable! That must be the main sewer for half of London! Not surprised they wanted plenty of clearance, with a sewer like that they must have been round regularly to inspect. Are you saying he didn't even know it was there?

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Unbelievable! That must be the main sewer for half of London! Not surprised they wanted plenty of clearance, with a sewer like that they must have been round regularly to inspect. Are you saying he didn't even know it was there?

Have you seen London's sewers? Good grief, there are some you could drive a car through.

 

[John D v2.0]

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

http://www.thameswater.co.uk/about-us/10115.htm

 

[phills1]

I have to divert it, the surface water one we are not touching far too much to move, pipe is huge. The foul is 360mm wide x 400mm deep measured internally. No access holes are in our property they are on a public green area, so are outside our boundary. Our piling contractor did work in Brentwood and that was over a larger pipe and Thames water gave a build over agreement. What I don't like is there is no UK standard each water company is free to make up its own rules. Next issue is do I sue the house builder because the house was I think not allowed to be built that close in the first place 1994, still said builds should be at least 3m away from that size pipe..... Moving NO

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Sue the developer? You're having a laugh!

 

[phills1]

Sue the developer? You're having a laugh!

Nope, if not built according to regs at that time, hey have nothing to stand on my two cents else they cover the costs of diverting it

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Good luck with that.

 

[noseall]

The foul is 360mm wide x 400mm deep measured internally....... Moving NO

You are stuffed then. Either cough up trillions for an extension or add another storey.

 

[HERTS P&D]

Andy

 

[noseall]

What a crock.......