Exterior Wood Glue

[skybluescooby]

Hi, Im currently in the process of making some garden benches out of some railway sleepers, I am at the stage of gluing the legs to the seat via a dado joint, as pictured but turn 45 degrees left.
What would be the best brand and type of glue to use to bind these two pieces together.
I will be strengthening the joints with 2 angle brackets but need to give it maximum strength with a good quality external wood glue......
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[Jasonb]

Polyurethene, epoxy (west systems) or Titebond 3 will all work with the epoxy being the best.

Re strength I would be tempted to put some coach screws in from the outside edge to pull the joint up tight.

Jason

 

[ModernMaterials]

Nails are always better than screws into end grain.

 

[imamartian]

Wouldn't those (IKEA type) flat pack locking nut type fixings - with any exterior grade glue work really well here?

 

[big-all]

Nails are always better than screws into end grain.

interesting thought

depends on application

 

[ModernMaterials]

Just to expand on my nails v screws into end grain statement:

You could buy a 9 inch coach screw and pilot drill the timber and counter bore for the shank etc. and i am sure you would get a good fix with it but would it really be that much better than a similar length nail? I am fairly sure it would be more expense and work.

I cant honestly think of an application where a screw would be better than a nail into end grain even large size roofing joints would get closed up with nails.

I could be wrong...

 

[Bilioustrumpstaine]

Railway sleepers are hefty old things, what size nails would you recommend ?

 

[xerxes]

Perhaps these would be suitable.

 

[Jasonb]

Theres only one nail for sleepers and thats a rail spike

Few Timbalok screws would be OK

Jason

 

[ModernMaterials]

mmmm she is lovely xerxes. i would get her to sort all my wood issues.

 

[ModernMaterials]

btw i already said 9" nails cus he's lost some of the width by grooving out his housing joint.

 

[ModernMaterials]

btw jase your rail spike would be no good cus its designed not to go the whole way through a sleeper, for obvious reasons

 

[skybluescooby]

Hi Guys,
Cheers for the replies so far, i think i may have mis-explained.
I have a 2.4 mtr x 5" depth sleeper that i am making into a bench. I have cut out 2 rebates which are 2.5" deep and 5" wide and this is where the legs will be slotted home. Imagine the picture i posted as sleepers and turned 45 degrees left.
I don't intend to drive any nails or bolts through the seat into the legs, i just need a strong exterior adhesive and any tips on how to give the bench maximum strength and ensuring fixing invisibility.
I think i'm almost there in terms of fixing and i will post a picture when all is complete.
Thanks for the interest so far

 

[skybluescooby]

As promised, managed to complete the sleeper benches and following the advice i have now installed them and they are sat happy in the sun.

Again, as promised heres some pics of the final result, Camera has somewhat darkened the finish though...
Thanks to all again
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[rayjackson61]

Hi,

Just been searching the internet and found your post from a few years ago - I can see the design looks straight forward but could you share the instructions and how it is fixed to the ground?

Thanks

Ray

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