Ideas/Examples

[Georgie73]

I'm having a full rewire on an empty house which we are renovating to move into.

I've decided to open up the space under the staircase and have my computer station in the area. Currently the router is in another room about 15ft away from computer.

I'd like to reduce the amount of visible trailing cable and would be grateful for suggestions and possibly some links for images of products etc?

Many thanks
George73

 

[Himaginn]

Is your router wifi?

 

[Taylortwocities]

Move the router to understairs area.
Use some of this stuff to mount power and data sockets etc
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Trunking_Pvc_Index/GilflexGX3800/index.html

Run Ethernet cables to other strategic points in the property (eg TVs, computer locations, etc. ) You do not want to use Wi-fi too much. It is not to be trusted, and can really scrog your hope of using the ever increasing proliferation of media on demand.

 

[Georgie73]

Is your router wifi?

Yes it is.

 

[Georgie73]

Move the router to understairs area.
Use some of this stuff to mount power and data sockets etc
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Trunking_Pvc_Index/GilflexGX3800/index.html

Run Ethernet cables to other strategic points in the property (eg TVs, computer locations, etc. ) You do not want to use Wi-fi too much. It is not to be trusted, and can really scrog your hope of using the ever increasing proliferation of media on demand.

Thank you. I would never have thought of that. Our son's bedroom looks like spaghetti junction with all his cables.

So basically, if I have my router relocated to under the stairs - I guess I have to have the telephone socket relocated too?

Then I would have the walls channelled out to run the Ethernet cables up the wall - up into the floorboards and run them to the area my son's pc would be, channel the wall out again and run the Ethernet cable. My son would then connect his pc and xbox to the Ethernet cable? If this is the case - would there be any socket fronts that could be mounted into the wall for the Ethernet cable?

We are having dedicated ariel sockets in the bedrooms. Can you buy socket fronts which have a combination of TV aerial and Ethernet cable?

Many thanks.

 

[Georgie73]

Is this what I need in my loft to connect the ariel to all the bedrooms, living room and kitchen? At the moment we have no plans for sky or virgin - we just have regular tv channels and freeview stuff. We are intending to buy a digi-box so that we can pause TV, record etc.

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MXLDU608G.html

 

[Taylortwocities]

if I have my router relocated to under the stairs - I guess I have to have the telephone socket relocated too?

Leave the existing where it is and run phone cable to under stairs. Fit an extension phone socket there.
All of this is not a problem at the moment because

I'm having a full rewire on an empty house

So you'll have a lot of floorsup/with walls chased, made good/replastered

Can you buy socket fronts which have a combination of TV aerial and Ethernet cable?

Sure. common as muck. Google CAT5 sockets, but in any case

would there be any socket fronts that could be mounted into the wall for the Ethernet cable?

You can make up any combination you like using data grid products. See here for example https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_I...ex/A_White_All/Computer_RJ45_Mod_1/index.html

 

[Taylortwocities]

Is this what I need in my loft to connect the ariel to all the bedrooms, living room and kitchen? At the moment we have no plans for sky or virgin - we just have regular tv channels and freeview stuff. We are intending to buy a digi-box so that we can pause TV, record etc.

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MXLDU608G.html

That one is fine, but expensive, if you are only distributing terrestrial TV and radio. One of these would be OK https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MXSLX8G.html

 

[Georgie73]

Is this what I need in my loft to connect the ariel to all the bedrooms, living room and kitchen? At the moment we have no plans for sky or virgin - we just have regular tv channels and freeview stuff. We are intending to buy a digi-box so that we can pause TV, record etc.

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MXLDU608G.html

That one is fine, but expensive, if you are only distributing terrestrial TV and radio. One of these would be OK https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MXSLX8G.html

Brilliant. But say I want to have something like Sky later - would the other distributer be better?

 

[Georgie73]

if I have my router relocated to under the stairs - I guess I have to have the telephone socket relocated too?

Leave the existing where it is and run phone cable to under stairs. Fit an extension phone socket there.
All of this is not a problem at the moment because

I'm having a full rewire on an empty house

So you'll have a lot of floorsup/with walls chased, made good/replastered

Can you buy socket fronts which have a combination of TV aerial and Ethernet cable?

Sure. common as muck. Google CAT5 sockets, but in any case

would there be any socket fronts that could be mounted into the wall for the Ethernet cable?

You can make up any combination you like using data grid products. See here for example https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_I...ex/A_White_All/Computer_RJ45_Mod_1/index.html

You are amazing, thank you. I've never even seen this sort of thing before - didn't even know it existed.
So, I guess you buy the little switches, say one for a tv aerial, maybe two for Ethernet (one for pc, one for xbox) and then you buy the right size to accommodate whatever you are putting in?

 

[Taylortwocities]

So, I guess you buy the little switches, say one for a tv aerial, maybe two for Ethernet (one for pc, one for xbox) and then you buy the right size to accommodate whatever you are putting in?

The plates come in various sizes, normally they hold 2 or 4 modules. If you want 3 then buy a 4-gang plate, 3 modules and a blank

Simples!

 

[ericmark]

My first question is can one now put electrical equipment under the stairs? I thought this was now no longer allowed and we have to stop putting items like consumer units under the stairs because of the fire risk.

 

[JohnW2]

My first question is can one now put electrical equipment under the stairs? I thought this was now no longer allowed and we have to stop putting items like consumer units under the stairs because of the fire risk.

Where does that come from?

Kind Regards, John

 

[ericmark]

I have not got amendment 3 but attended lecturers and I was lead to believe sighting electrical boxes under the stairs is now not permitted. May be I have miss heard?

 

[JohnW2]

I have not got amendment 3 but attended lecturers and I was lead to believe sighting electrical boxes under the stairs is now not permitted. May be I have miss heard?

ISTR that it was one of the things that LFB were campaigning for, but I don't think it's (yet!) got into any regulations. Even if it had, it would take many decades to have much impact, since no-one is going to go to the hassle and expense of having the supply moved in an existing property!

I'm not quite sure that I understand why putting electrical equipment under the stairs carries an appreciably greater 'fire risk' than putting it anywhere else. I suppose it's more likely to set fire to the stairs, which could be a problem, but I can't think of anything else.

I suspect that LFB would prefer houses to have no electricity (or gas) supply at all but, there again, they would then lose the 'scapegoat' to invoke whenever they cannot determine any other cause of a fire!

Kind Regards, John