Switch live PIR

[Niblok]

Morning all

Sill question on its way

I need a outdoor light with PIR and with a switched live so light can be on constant. but when looking online nothing seem to tell me if it has a switched live on it. So does anyone no how to identify if it has one or not.

otherwise i'll have to go to the shops and start opening the boxes to fine what i need
Cheers

 

[sparkiemike]

Do you mean you want to put voltage onto the switched live contact of the PIR, eg have a wall switch that will override the PIR?

If so the SPECRA range from Friedland have this feature, you can view the instruction (wiring diagram) on this website.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/SS6016.html

Ideally in addition to the over ride switch you should have an additional switch to switch off the lights completley.

If you don't have the switching arrangement in place then most PIRs have a feature when you turn the switch on and off a few times to over ride the PIR

 

[Niblok]

yes looking to override the PIR from wall switch but looking for a all in one
light and PIR

PIRs have a feature when you turn the switch on and off a few times to over ride the PIR but when you need to turn them off you carnt turn the supply back on till its day light again (this is the problem with the light i have now )

 

[sparkiemike]

Friedland also do flood lights with PIR that can have a voltage on the switched live

http://www.friedland.co.uk/en-GB/pr...ors/spectradectorandlights/Pages/default.aspx

 

[EFLImpudence]

you cant turn the supply back on till its day light again

That can't be right. What exactly do you mean?

How does it know it's dark when the power is off?

Normally when turned back on the light will stay on for as long as you have the time set before reverting to sensor operation.

 

[Niblok]

It does not reset till its turned on in daylight [/b]

 

[bernardgreen]

PIRs that can be mode changed by flicking the power on and off can change mode and stay on all night after a power glitch.

My choice is the Steinel IS 180 which doesn't have that function and is a lot more reliable than the majority of PIRs from the DIY retailers.

http://www.steinel.de/en/produkte_f...melder/infrarot_sensoren_wandmontage/is_180-2 ( It is in English )

 

[timtheenchanter]

you carnt turn the supply back on till its day light again (this is the problem with the light i have now )

are you sure? all PIR lights I have seen override the pir by switching off then in within (usually) 3 seconds, to reset to normal detection, switch off for at lease 30 seconds then on again.

The light will come back on when you switch it back on initially, but will go out after the normal "on" time

 

[333rocky333]

Providing the Feed and the switchlive are on the same circuit, i cannot see why you cant put the switchlive in the pir/ output lampholder terminal, although it will also bypass the photocell.
Or have i missed something

 

[Niblok]

Yes that will work good idea but will probably not comply with manufactures Fit in instructions

 

[RF Lighting]

Just use any standalone mains PIR and a seperate light fitting.

 

[Niblok]

Mmmmmm seem to have got a lot of answers but no answer to the first main question so will go to the shops and start opening boxes
Thanks for the help gentelmen

 

[bernardgreen]

PIR with overrides

• bernardgreen
• 18 Mar 2011
• 20

Using two single pole switches to provide overrides for a basic PIR

 

[JohnW2]

Mmmmmm seem to have got a lot of answers but no answer to the first main question so will go to the shops and start opening boxes

Before you start opening boxes, read what's on the outside of them. If they indicate that they offer the facility of having the PIR control additional lights (as well as the integral one), they must have a switched live terminal available.

Kind Regards, John

 

[Niblok]

switched live terminal available

yes i know but have never found a box that has any indication on the box that is has a live feed and a switched live feed

this is my question how can you tell without opening the box