DIYnot
Local | Network
   DIYnot > Forums
Local | Network
DIYnot Network Local DIYnot Network Local  
  Forum IndexForum Index     RulesRules    HelpHelp     Join FREERegister Free     BookmarksBookmarks     Watched TopicsWatched Topics     SearchSearch     LoginLogin 

Removal Of A Non Supporting Wall


 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DIYnot.com Forum Index > Building Regulations and Planning Permission
  View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
leestaunton

from United Kingdom

Joined: 25 May 2008
Posts: 23
Location: West Midlands,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 0 times

PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:47 pm    Post Subject:
Removal Of A Non Supporting Wall
Reply with quote Thanks

About 10 years ago a builder removed a non supporting wall from our old 30's semi. At the time the builder claimed , that as the wall was non supporting, that planning permision was not required.

We've now come to sell the house but are being asked for proof of planning permission. Obviously we have non, our buyers solicitor are asking for a payment of 150GBP for an indemnity against any insufficient work. Does this sound normal or are they trying it on?
Back to top
 Alert Moderators

If you don't want to see this advert, click here to login or if you are new click here to join free.
noseall

from United Kingdom

Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 11059
Location: Staffordshire,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 73 times

PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:29 pm    Post Subject:
Reply with quote Thanks

It sounds as though you are confused about the rules.

Planning permission (in general) will not apply to internal works.

Building regulations will. However, b'regs only applies to relevant structural alterations. Partition walls are not deemed structurally relevant and are therefore not controlled work.
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
Tipper

from United Kingdom

Joined: 01 Dec 2008
Posts: 339
Location: Devon,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 7 times

PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:47 pm    Post Subject:
Reply with quote Thanks

Interestingly we've just started to remove 2 partition walls that turn out to be structural!

Both are plasterboard and timber stud construction and one is actually holding up the roof and the other is supporting the roof ceiling where there is no binder beam and no other support now evident! This in a late 1960's house that is as built and hasn't been modified before.

Nobody foresaw this neither the architect nor builders who quoted until the plastrerboard came off and all was revealed. Suffice to say the studs are still there whilst a binder beam is added to the ceiling joists in one area and a steel RSJ is sized for the roof support in another.

Not all partitions are non-load-bearing!!

__________________
"When in doubt...............DON'T"
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
charlie30

from United Kingdom

Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Posts: 48
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 0 times

PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:45 pm    Post Subject:
Reply with quote Thanks

I am doing the reverse and adding an internal partition wall to split living room into bedroom and smaller reception (increase in family size needs it!), and have applied for building notice (LABC) after checking with them.

They told me that the removal or addition of an internal wall needs to go through them, mainly for the regs on fire escape.

Anyway the cost of this is about £150, applicable before the work begins, or after the work has finished (regularisation) which seems to be the cost being asked by your solicitor, and could be what it is being kept for.
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
noseall

from United Kingdom

Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 11059
Location: Staffordshire,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 73 times

PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:27 pm    Post Subject:
Reply with quote Thanks

Tipper wrote:
Not all partitions are non-load-bearing!!


Quite so.

But one would have to assume that the o.p. has already established this and answer the question accordingly.

Partition walls in general, i.e. non-structural walls, do not require building regulations approval should you wish to remove one.

There are instances where electrics have to be altered, radiators installed or extractor vents installed, but my feeling is that the people involved with the sale are concerned about the structural relevance of the wall, yes/no?
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
leestaunton

from United Kingdom

Joined: 25 May 2008
Posts: 23
Location: West Midlands,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 0 times

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:37 pm    Post Subject:
Reply with quote Thanks

just signed the waiver, it was confirmation that the builders had followed building regulations.
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
Display posts from previous:   
  View previous topic :: View next topic  
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DIYnot.com Forum Index > Building Regulations and Planning Permission All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Similar Topics   Replies   Views   Posted 
Chimney Removal with a twist 5 480 Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:19 pm
Regs regarding Chimney removal 3 260 Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:04 pm
Planning required for section of chimne removal? 2 180 Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:05 pm
Garage Conversion - Outer Wall 2 180 Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:33 pm
Wall thickness 2 240 Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:16 pm



DIYnot
Find an Expert | Find a Supplier | Search DIYnot.com
My DIYnot | Advertising | Newsletter
DIYnot.com | How to... | @home | Wiki | Forum
By using this site you agree to our Terms of Service / Disclaimer.
Please read our Privacy Policy.