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screamer

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:28 pm Reply with quote

I've just had to strip the paper from my bathroom ceiling again, as it's started to peal off at the comb ceiling.

i think the main problem is that a previous owner painted the ceiling with a gloss type paint.

we sanded it and painted over with a matt paint for the paper to stick to better.
when i stripped it yeaterday, the matt paint was coming off as well & was also kinda wet feeling.


so, whats the best remedy to sort this (apart from replastering lol)


i have seen getting mentioned primer sealer, is this any good?

cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:33 pm Reply with quote

screamer wrote:

so, whats the best remedy to sort this (apart from replastering lol)

Your post doesnít really give much room for manoeuvre on suggestions which maybe why youíve received nothing from the Decs.

Paper & bathrooms really donít go together at all Iím afraid, especially on the ceiling. Steamers are used to strip paper & the fact that your's has failed twice should give you a clue. The only way your going to stop steam affecting the paper is to totally seal it with an oil based paint & even then I think your asking something. No idea how bad your ceiling is which maybe why you want to paper it but re-skimming is probably the only option. An average sized bathroom shouldnít cost much, £75 - £200 at the very most; but it depends how many times you want to re-do your ceiling. icon_wink.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:17 pm Reply with quote

Richard C wrote:

Your post doesnít really give much room for manoeuvre on suggestions which maybe why youíve received nothing from the Decs.

Paper & bathrooms really donít go together at all Iím afraid, especially on the ceiling. Steamers are used to strip paper & the fact that your's has failed twice should give you a clue. The only way your going to stop steam affecting the paper is to totally seal it with an oil based paint & even then I think your asking something. No idea how bad your ceiling is which maybe why you want to paper it but re-skimming is probably the only option. An average sized bathroom shouldnít cost much, £75 - £200 at the very most; but it depends how many times you want to re-do your ceiling. icon_wink.gif
cheers for the reply.

i was half minded to try nitromorse on the ceiling lol

i'll maybe sugarsoap the ceiling and see about fulling & sanding it and give it a good few coats of matt paint to see what it's going to look like
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:34 pm Reply with quote

Screamer,

I think your best option here would be to post a couplle of pics of the ceiling so we can see what we are dealing with, then we can try and ascertain what your problem is and provide you with a cure.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:04 pm Reply with quote

TheDec wrote:
Screamer,

I think your best option here would be to post a couplle of pics of the ceiling so we can see what we are dealing with, then we can try and ascertain what your problem is and provide you with a cure.

Dec


this pic might not be the best.

but you'll see the yellow base colour, thats got a glossy face to it, we sanded it down to give it a rough surface for the matt paint to stick to

http://i43.tinypic.com/2prep0k.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:52 am Reply with quote

tell us more about the extractor fan that you use to remove steam from the bathroom before it can make bathroom ceiling damp.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:31 pm Reply with quote

JohnD wrote:
tell us more about the extractor fan that you use to remove steam from the bathroom before it can make bathroom ceiling damp.
no extractor, we just leave the hopper window open all the time

this is more to do with what can i do to the original ceiling paint, for the new paint/wallpaper to stick to
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:05 pm Reply with quote

yes, I know it is, but I have a feeling that the ceiling is getting damp from the steam, and that is the cause of your decorating problems.

It is very common for people to shut the window to keep the cold out while they are having a bath or shower, and if there is no fan, this will cause condensation.

How is the ceiling above insulated?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:24 pm Reply with quote

JohnD wrote:
yes, I know it is, but I have a feeling that the ceiling is getting damp from the steam, and that is the cause of your decorating problems.

It is very common for people to shut the window to keep the cold out while they are having a bath or shower, and if there is no fan, this will cause condensation.

How is the ceiling above insulated?
there's glasswool above.

funnyily enough, i was sharing my room offshore with a painter, so i was asking him about it.

he thinks it's eggshell that on the ceiling, he's said to sand it down with rough sandpaer, then smoother paper, then give it a couple of coats of vinyl paint.

whats your thoughts?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:12 pm Reply with quote

I dont like wallpaper, never have, but even with that aside I really cannot see why someone would want to paper a bathroom ceiling.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:33 pm Reply with quote

Eggshell is an oil paint, and fairly resistant to damp (better than emulsion). But wallpaper paste is water-based and will tend to soften and peel if it gets moist.

If you are sure the ceiling is well insulated, so it should be warm, it should not be getting damp unless there is a high humidity in the room (there is no chance the ceiling could be getting sprayed from ther shower, I supose?)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:37 pm Reply with quote

OP mate - take the advice given - abandon the idea of papering a bathroom ceiling! Its nuts! Get it painted properly like 99.99% of the population and you'll have much fewer problems!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:43 pm Reply with quote

JohnD wrote:
Eggshell is an oil paint,


You can get water based eggshell! icon_wink.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:46 pm Reply with quote

Acrylic eggshell.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:48 pm Reply with quote

bah! icon_mad.gif
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