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Dulux sued because its BRILLIANT WHITE paint fades to yellow

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:40 am Reply with quote

No good for a quick tosh out then?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:05 am Reply with quote

I don't do much toshing but if i do i go with crown solo now after advice on here. I don't like it much but it pretty much does what it says on the tin although does need a second coat sometimes.

I'd be really happy to find a decent WB gloss as being able to u/c and gloss same day is a right bonus, but if we have to start putting on two or three coats as standard it defeats the point.

The manufacturers will get there sooner or later or if the new formulae solvent glosses stand the test of time i'll be happy to keep using them on top of WB u/c.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:13 am Reply with quote

We generally use crown solo for the toshing!
But on the higher end jobs where the finish and longevity is important still at a bit of a loss. Dulux aint what it was by a long shot.
Macphersons aint to bad, used to be better, aint used them in a while might give em another go!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:17 pm Reply with quote

oldgreymouse wrote:
Anyone out there found a good smooth flowing water based white??


To aid flow, add Floetrol or one of the other propylene glycol based products such as the cheaper one from ximbonder

http://www.ximbonder.com/upload/pdfs/Latex%20X-Tender%20Sell%20Sheet.pdf
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:31 am Reply with quote

Hi all,

I wanted to find out if the Dulux paint that is going yellow applies to the walls and ceilings ones? I couldn't work out why 4 of the doors I have painted as well as the skirting have gone yellow until I found the articles in the paper 2 weeks ago. I've still got my receipt from 2010, can I still make a claim?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:57 am Reply with quote

tst121 wrote:
Hi all,

I wanted to find out if the Dulux paint that is going yellow applies to the walls and ceilings ones? I couldn't work out why 4 of the doors I have painted as well as the skirting have gone yellow until I found the articles in the paper 2 weeks ago. I've still got my receipt from 2010, can I still make a claim?

Thanks


Waterbased paints, inluding emulsions are not affected by a lack of UV light and thus do not yellow.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:30 am Reply with quote

Sorry about asking but I'm not too sure. I did buy couple of tin of gloss dulux paint which has turned the doors yellow. I guess the Dulux white Matt doesn't turn yellow.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:36 am Reply with quote

when you say Matt, do you mean emulsion?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:06 pm Reply with quote

tst121 wrote:
Sorry about asking but I'm not too sure. I did buy couple of tin of gloss dulux paint which has turned the doors yellow. I guess the Dulux white Matt doesn't turn yellow.


Oil based paints have always suffered from yellowing, since 2010 the rate at which they yellow has increased substantially largely as a result of the reduction in solvents being offset by more vegetable oils.

If the gloss you used was oilbased (thinned with white spirits) then yes it has probably yellowed as a result of the EU regulations.

The newer Dulux tins with the blue lids are the ones released once they realised there was a big problem. Unfortunately many places still stock the white lids (this applies to Dulux trade, not sure about the retail version).

In reality your contract is with the shop and not Dulux. IMO- Whilst Dulux are getting a lot of flack they should be congratulated for coughing up and not telling customers to get lost. I suspect that most DIY sheds will refer you to Dulux but you should contact the store first.

water based Matt emulsion is not affected, but you can get matt oilbased paints as well
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:09 pm Reply with quote

It is worth remembering that Dulux were the only firm that took the time to join forums back in Jan 2010 to explain the changes.

the diy sheds would have been aware of these issues for the last 2 years yet didn't bother telling customers...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:36 pm Reply with quote

This is the one I bought

Dulux Rich Matt Paint Pure Brilliant White 10L? I guess this is not affected although I did buy 2 tins of oil based ones which have turned the doors yellow!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:20 pm Reply with quote

tst121 wrote:
This is the one I bought

Dulux Rich Matt Paint Pure Brilliant White 10L? I guess this is not affected although I did buy 2 tins of oil based ones which have turned the doors yellow!


No, the 10L of Ruch Matt is emulsion paint and won't be affected.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:50 pm Reply with quote

I bought numerous 1L tins of paint to test, including a Dulux white gloss oil based paint in a tin with a blue lid (bought summer 2011). I only painted a few items, and then switched to Sikkens oil based, which is lovely. Two pieces of Dulux painted skirting board went yellow in a month. The loft door is still Dulux gloss, and it is yellow. It went yellow in weeks whereas the sikkens architrace around it is still brilliant white. I do not believe the guff about Dulux having solved this issue. Or if they have, then some blue lid tins are duff.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:19 pm Reply with quote

CanI still jump on the bandwagon and claim off them?
I dont want to have to paint the bathroom cupboard again lol
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:22 am Reply with quote

mattylad wrote:
CanI still jump on the bandwagon and claim off them?
I dont want to have to paint the bathroom cupboard again lol


Write to them and complain!! I did and got 200 of paint vouchers and an apology, its hardly a bandwagon, if you are not happy with a product or it is defective complain, its really no that difficult.
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