DIYnot
Local | Network
   DIYnot > Forums
Local | Network
DIYnot Network Local DIYnot Network Local  
  Forum IndexForum Index     RulesRules    HelpHelp     Join FREERegister Free     About CookiesCookies     SearchSearch     LoginLogin 

Electric tripped & trip switch won't turn back on, Pls H


 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DIYnot.com Forum Index > Electrics UK
Search this topic :: View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
mcleanzola

from United Kingdom

Joined: 22 Jul 2012
Posts: 5
Location: Aberdeen,
United Kingdom

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:03 am Reply with quote

Hi

I hope someone can help.

My electricity tripped last night & I can't get the trip switch to stay in the on position.
I moved into this house a few months ago & nothing is as it should be.
The switch that has tripped controls the living room, dining room, downstairs hall, upstairs hall & 3 bedrooms.

I have switched off everything in all these rooms & tried to switch the trip back on. It stays on for 20 seconds max then trips.

I have nothing plugged in, in the dining room or upstairs hall ever. The downstairs hall just has the house phone. 2 bedrooms & the living room have the TV's & I have 2 touch lamps in 1 bedroom.
That is it.

All the ceiling lights still work. They must be on a different switch.

Just wanted to know if there may be a reason behind this that I can sort or should I call out an electrician.

The trip switch box is located upstairs. (First time I have ever come across that, so thought i'd say incase relevant.)

Thanks in advance for any help
Lisa
Back to top
 Alert Moderators

If you do not want to see this advert, click here to login or if you are new click here to join free.
RMS

from United Kingdom

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 1100
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 78 times

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:40 am Reply with quote

It would help if you could upload a picture of the consumer unit (trip switch box).
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
BGSMJack

from United Kingdom

Joined: 02 Nov 2011
Posts: 758
Location: Cheshire,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 59 times

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:55 am Reply with quote

if everything is unplugged and its still tripping.

ID either go with a mouse has bitten through one of your cables and is still attached, or someone (a child) has jabbed something into a socket and broken it.

Both could lead to a short circuit which would cause the trips to trip.

Electrics isnt really a DIY job, get an electrician out to find and fix the issue.
Back to top
The following user says thank you to BGSMJack for this useful post:
mcleanzola (23 Jul 2012)
 Alert Moderators
RMS

from United Kingdom

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 1100
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 78 times

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:58 am Reply with quote

BGSMJack wrote:


ID either go with a mouse has bitten through one of your cables and is still attached, or someone (a child) has jabbed something into a socket and broken it.


Either of the above seem quite specific. Very possible but very specific.
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
BGSMJack

from United Kingdom

Joined: 02 Nov 2011
Posts: 758
Location: Cheshire,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 59 times

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:23 am Reply with quote

RMS wrote:
BGSMJack wrote:


ID either go with a mouse has bitten through one of your cables and is still attached, or someone (a child) has jabbed something into a socket and broken it.


Either of the above seem quite specific. Very possible but very specific.


I know these forums can be quite indepth a times, but the OP said lights n stuff where still on, so it cant of been the RCD that tripped, and with nothing connected to the sockets and it still tripping, an overcurrent seems unlikely.
Back to top
The following user says thank you to BGSMJack for this useful post:
mcleanzola (23 Jul 2012)
 Alert Moderators
Taylortwocities

from United Kingdom

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Posts: 12616
Location: Oxfordshire,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 1050 times

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:25 am Reply with quote

What is it that has tripped:
Has it got a test button on it. This pic may help you identify it, or post a picture showing what is tripping.



It may be an earth fault. If so I always start off looking at any place where electricity and water might come together.
Usually they are separated by a seal of some kind but sometimes the seal breaks down.

Plces to look are outside lights, sockets, any electrical stuff in gardens or outbuildings.

Next place is central heating systems. If there is one isolation switch for the heating, turn that off.
Also look at heating pumps, valves, etc and look for leaks

Make sure everything is unplugged as well as switched off.
Back to top
The following user says thank you to Taylortwocities for this useful post:
mcleanzola (23 Jul 2012)
 Alert Moderators
crystal ball

from United Kingdom

Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Posts: 704
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 11 times

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:34 am Reply with quote

BGSMJack wrote:
RMS wrote:
BGSMJack wrote:


ID either go with a mouse has bitten through one of your cables and is still attached, or someone (a child) has jabbed something into a socket and broken it.


Either of the above seem quite specific. Very possible but very specific.


I know these forums can be quite indepth a times, but the OP said lights n stuff where still on, so it cant of been the RCD that tripped, and with nothing connected to the sockets and it still tripping, an overcurrent seems unlikely.


It might be an RCBO for the sockets, or a split CU with lights on the non RCD side
Back to top
The following user says thank you to crystal ball for this useful post:
mcleanzola (23 Jul 2012)
 Alert Moderators
securespark

from United Kingdom

Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 25246
Location: Cheshire,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 445 times

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:38 pm Reply with quote

In case it's an LE fault, try switching off all the MCB's, then reset the switch that has tripped. Does it stay on?

If so, try switching the MCB's on one by one. Leave them on for a good few minutes. If the trip stays on, switch the next MCB on and so on. Hopefully, it will trip when you get to the faulty circuit.

If it does not reset even with all MCB's off, then it is either an NE fault or you have a faulty trip switch.
Back to top
The following user says thank you to securespark for this useful post:
mcleanzola (23 Jul 2012)
 Alert Moderators
mcleanzola

from United Kingdom

Joined: 22 Jul 2012
Posts: 5
Location: Aberdeen,
United Kingdom

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:58 am Reply with quote

Thanks for all your help.

I've switched off all the MCB's & it still trips.

Water, a child or even a mouse are all possible.

Tried the test button, no joy.

I have called an electrician who is coming out today so I will let you know what the exact problem was.

Many Thanks for your help.
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
martinxxxxxx

from United Kingdom

Joined: 24 Oct 2009
Posts: 1003
Location: Hampshire,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 56 times

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:29 am Reply with quote

Did it rain heavily in Aberdeen last night?
Back to top
The following user says thank you to martinxxxxxx for this useful post:
mcleanzola (23 Jul 2012)
 Alert Moderators
pjcomp

from United Kingdom

Joined: 22 Jun 2010
Posts: 543
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 74 times

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:22 pm Reply with quote

Was it the sort of RCD that trips to the halfway-down point and has to be pushed all the way down before being reset (MEM/Eaton springs to mind). Hope fully your electrician will have been and sorted it by now - what was it?

PJ
Back to top
The following user says thank you to pjcomp for this useful post:
mcleanzola (23 Jul 2012)
 Alert Moderators
thomo27

from United Kingdom

Joined: 15 Dec 2006
Posts: 397
Location: Durham,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 13 times

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:48 pm Reply with quote

pjcomp wrote:
Was it the sort of RCD that trips to the halfway-down point and has to be pushed all the way down before being reset (MEM/Eaton springs to mind). Hope fully your electrician will have been and sorted it by now - what was it?

PJ


my bets on this scenario, square d need to be turned off then back on to reset too...
Back to top
The following user says thank you to thomo27 for this useful post:
mcleanzola (23 Jul 2012)
 Alert Moderators
ban-all-sheds

from United Kingdom

Joined: 27 Aug 2003
Posts: 48276
Location: London,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 1816 times

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:56 pm Reply with quote

It's not refusing to go back on - it's not a reset problem.

It just won't stay on....

mcleanzola wrote:
It stays on for 20 seconds max then trips.
Back to top
The following user says thank you to ban-all-sheds for this useful post:
mcleanzola (23 Jul 2012)
 Alert Moderators
mcleanzola

from United Kingdom

Joined: 22 Jul 2012
Posts: 5
Location: Aberdeen,
United Kingdom

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:30 pm Reply with quote

Hi,

Electrician has fixed it, YAY !

There was some problem between a back hallway socket & the living room socket. They are on the same loop (?) and something was causing it to trip.
The electrician could not identify what was making it trip, but still found the problem & has fixed it by splitting the feed to, two 16 amp breakers instead of 1, 32 amp breakers.

Hope this makes some sense. Just trying to remember exactly what he said.

Only thing that was a bit strange was neither of the sockets in question get used. But I suppose anything could have caused it.

Thanks to all of you for your help. It has been very much appreciated !
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
ban-all-sheds

from United Kingdom

Joined: 27 Aug 2003
Posts: 48276
Location: London,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 1816 times

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:19 pm Reply with quote

mcleanzola wrote:
The electrician could not identify what was making it trip, but still found the problem & has fixed it by splitting the feed to, two 16 amp breakers instead of 1, 32 amp breakers.

Well if that has worked then the problem is a N-E fault somewhere in the cable that used to run between those 2 sockets.
Back to top
The following user says thank you to ban-all-sheds for this useful post:
mcleanzola (24 Jul 2012)
 Alert Moderators
Search this topic :: View previous topic :: View next topic  
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DIYnot.com Forum Index > Electrics UK All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Similar Topics   Replies   Views   Posted 
trip switch tripped out down stairs sockets 8 660 Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:57 am
Electric sockets tripped out and won't come back on again 4 220 Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:02 pm
Halogen bulb blew, tripped, now won't power back up 7 1040 Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:11 am
RCCB TRIPPED, CAN'T GET POWER BACK ON 37 1740 Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:46 pm
2 way switch which wont turn off 11 540 Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:29 pm


 
DIYnot
Find an Expert | Find a Supplier | Search DIYnot.com
Network | Advertising | Newsletter
DIY | DIY How To | @home | DIY Wiki | DIY Forum
By using this site you agree to our Terms of Service / Disclaimer.
Please read our Privacy Policy. Copyright © 2000-2014 DIYnot Limited.