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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:39 pm Reply with quote

I understand you cannot hide cable, eg 2.5mm T&E behind the skirting board but is it okay to put it on front of the skirting board in a trunking? I'm confused as you can buy a mould trunking that goes on top of the skirting board but isn't that a hidden danger? Can't see what's the difference if it's behind or hidden in front icon_confused.gif If not, then I can go another route but it's a lot more work

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:23 pm Reply with quote

If it is in trunking you can put it in front of or on top of the skirting board. But not behind it!

You can see where the cable is when in trunking so you can put wherever you like - diagonally across a wall, if you must.
Things only get tricky when the cable is concealed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:53 pm Reply with quote

masona wrote:
I understand you cannot hide cable, eg 2.5mm T&E behind the skirting board but is it okay to put it on front of the skirting board in a trunking? I'm confused as you can buy a mould trunking that goes on top of the skirting board but isn't that a hidden danger? Can't see what's the difference if it's behind or hidden in front icon_confused.gif If not, then I can go another route but it's a lot more work



The difference is if it's behind the skirting board you cannot see it, if it's in front and made to blend in you can still see it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:02 pm Reply with quote

Taylortwocities wrote:
If it is in trunking you can put it in front of or on top of the skirting board. But not behind it! You can see where the cable is when in trunking so you can put wherever you like - diagonally across a wall, if you must. Things only get tricky when the cable is concealed.

Reg-wise, yes. In the real world, it can also get tricky if the trunking is aesthetically so 'good' that it may effectively 'conceal' the existance of the cables, by looking to some people as a plastic skirting (or plastic part of skirting). I know of a case in which someone drilled into one (to attach a phone socket or somesuch), not realising that it was cable trunking!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:08 pm Reply with quote

Use D line quarter round trunking. fit it where your skirting meets the floor and you'll hardly notice it at all.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:57 pm Reply with quote

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Reg-wise, yes. In the real world, it can also get tricky if the trunking is aesthetically so 'good' that it may effectively 'conceal' the existance of the cables, by looking to some people as a plastic skirting (or plastic part of skirting). I know of a case in which someone drilled into one (to attach a phone socket or somesuch), not realising that it was cable trunking!

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This is why I'm surprised it's acceptable!
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Use D line quarter round trunking. fit it where your skirting meets the floor and you'll hardly notice it at all.



I'm wondering if it's possible to put a metal conduit inside the trunking? Not sure what's available
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:57 pm Reply with quote

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I'm wondering if it's possible to put a metal conduit inside the trunking? Not sure what's available


Now you are being silly.

Why not just have a length of thick black steel armoured cable running around the floor of your room. That would look so smart. But just think how much safer it would be.

Trunking is a perfectly acceptable method of cable installation. Some concrete construction flats have even beed rewired in the stuff. Just get on with it, any further discussion is pointless.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:44 pm Reply with quote

Taylortwocities wrote:
Trunking is a perfectly acceptable method of cable installation. Some concrete construction flats have even beed rewired in the stuff. Just get on with it, any further discussion is pointless.

Masona has a point.

In theory it may be in trunking, but to all intents and purposes, in real life if you have an unnoticeable moulding atop the skirting, particularly if you paint them both, you have a situation no different from a cable behind the skirting.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:53 pm Reply with quote

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Taylortwocities wrote:
Trunking is a perfectly acceptable method of cable installation. Some concrete construction flats have even beed rewired in the stuff. Just get on with it, any further discussion is pointless.

Masona has a point.

In theory it may be in trunking, but to all intents and purposes, in real life if you have an unnoticeable moulding atop the skirting, particularly if you paint them both, you have a situation no different from a cable behind the skirting.


Tap it with a knuckle. Anyone who drills straight into something without knowing what it is is dumb enough to drill into a safe zone, too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:01 am Reply with quote

Tap a thin bit of skirting loosely attached to a wall in a place where there's empty air behind it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:07 am Reply with quote

Monkeh wrote:
Tap it with a knuckle. Anyone who drills straight into something without knowing what it is is dumb enough to drill into a safe zone, too.

I've told you of the case I saw. The perpetrator knew that it was hollow plastic, but thought it was plastic skirting - so he drilled (very small) pilot holes into it for self-tappings screws (I think to attach a telephone socket) - and hit something other than plastic icon_smile.gif

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:08 am Reply with quote

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Tap a thin bit of skirting loosely attached to a wall in a place where there's empty air behind it.


I have. It sounds and feels totally different to a bit of uPVC.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:10 am Reply with quote

JohnW2 wrote:
Monkeh wrote:
Tap it with a knuckle. Anyone who drills straight into something without knowing what it is is dumb enough to drill into a safe zone, too.

I've told you of the case I saw. The perpetrator knew that it was hollow plastic, but thought it was plastic skirting - so he drilled (very small) pilot holes into it for self-tappings screws (I think to attach a telephone socket) - and hit something other than plastic icon_smile.gif

Kind Regards, John.


Then look for the seam or see if there's some actual wooden skirting under it. He'd probably drill into dado trunking thinking the sockets were just mounted on it. Common sense goes a long way.

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