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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:47 pm Reply with quote

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I do wish people would use email stripper before posting forwarded emails with every ruddy line starting with a > > >
It is so simple to use and reduces the annoying > > >



Dave this sounds like the ideal gift, an email stripper icon_lol.gif where do i get one from, can we try before we buy. icon_mrgreen.gif icon_mrgreen.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:55 pm Reply with quote

libby lou lou wrote:
I have said it before but I won't apologize for not changing the record we should always remember that this forum is there for all to view and sometimes we should maybe take a little bit more care when expressing our opinions....
why? in case we hurt someone feelings?.



No....I think there is a difference between hurting someone's feelings and being insulting and offensive.
Pred just because they do that does it make it right.
We can all do and say anything we please it doesn't make it right.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:55 pm Reply with quote

ellal wrote:
pred wrote:



I AM DIFFERENT, i am English! i do not go to their countries telling them who to pray to or takeing dole money from their state, i pay my taxes, surely i'm aloud to have an opinion as to how they are spent and how my country is run!
ellal are you employed? do you pay taxes?


Sounds to me like you are having a fanatical rant, so what actually makes you 'different' from those you appear to want to get rid of?... icon_wink.gif

Does one need to be religious to have a fanatical rant? if so i dont qualify.

You of course have a right to an opinion, but don't expect those who don't tend to discriminate not to disagree with someone who does!

I dont discriminate with law abiding citizens with a similar "live & let live" attitude.

Oh, and while you're off on yet another 'english' superiority crusade, spare a thought for those around the world who we've being telling how they should run their lives for a long time now ....

Me personally? i dont think so!

And of course the millions we've killed in the process... icon_wink.gif


Me personally? i dont think so! icon_mrgreen.gif icon_mrgreen.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:57 pm Reply with quote

Susiejb wrote:



No....I think there is a difference between hurting someone's feelings and being insulting and offensive.
Pred just because they do that does it make it right.
We can all do and say anything we please it doesn't make it right.


But when others (not of this country) do what they do in this country and are allowed to do what they do, but we are not allowed the same freedom of expression, something's wrong. Susie.
This is the point many of us are trying to make.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:18 am Reply with quote

joinerjohn wrote:

But when others (not of this country) do what they do in this country and are allowed to do what they do, but we are not allowed the same freedom of expression, something's wrong. Susie.
This is the point many of us are trying to make.


Yes I do understand and on that point JJ I do agree fully .... but as I understood it I don't think the original post quite expressed the same sentiment.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:22 am Reply with quote

I think the original post was making sure he covered all angles
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:09 pm Reply with quote

pred agrees with somebody who wrote:
I am the political Parties Worst Nightmare. I am a White, Conservative, Tax-Paying, God fearing Indigenous BRIT ...... I am a hard working and l work long hours to earn a living. I believe in God and the freedom of religion, but I don't push it on others...


But you still represent a sizeable chunk of the electorate so they'll have to pretend to like you. icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif

and also wrote:
I believe the money I make belongs to me and not some leftist governmental functionary, Labour, Greens or Liberal, that wants to give it to those who don't work!


You'd better hope you die before you get old then. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

and also wrote:
I think owning a home doesn't make you a capitalist; it makes you a smart BRIT. I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything!


Fair comment. icon_cool.gif icon_cool.gif icon_cool.gif

and also wrote:
I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac or any other item, you should do it in English. I believe there should be no other language option in Britain.


Aha! I know who you are now. You're that woman who wanted to put the Welsh into Room 101. "Anne Robinson, you are the wickest leek. Goodbye!" icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

and also wrote:
I don't hate the rich, but hate the way they are always finding ways to pay less taxes. I don't pity the poor, I hate the way they are always crying that they are hard done by! I haven't burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks, and neither have you!


Fair enough. icon_cool.gif icon_cool.gif icon_cool.gif

and also wrote:
I believe if you don't like the way things are here, go back to where you came from and change your own country! This is BRITAIN .....We like it the way it is and more so the way it was ....so stop trying to change it to look like India, Africa, Pakistan, Iraq, Poland, Russia or China, or some socialist, Third World, Tin Pot country! If you were born or legally migrated here and don't like it, you are free to move to any country that will have you.


Actually, I didn't like it much the way it was when I was born - but it's improved with age. icon_smile.gif icon_smile.gif icon_smile.gif

and also wrote:
I believe it is time to really clean house, starting with the Houses of Parliament and Lords, the seat of our biggest problems.


The best of British luck mate. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

and also wrote:
I want to know exactly where the "Do Gooder's " get their money from, and why are they always part of the problem and not the solution?


If you ever find out, let me know. icon_confused.gif icon_confused.gif icon_confused.gif

and also wrote:
I also think the cops have the right to pull you over if you're breaking the law, regardless of what race, colour or creed you are, but not just because you happen to be an illegal alien and scream that they are "RACISTS PIGS" . And, no, I don't mind having my face shown on my driver's licence. I think it's good....


Ditto! icon_smile.gif icon_smile.gif icon_smile.gif

and also wrote:
I hope you are not too stupid to claim to know how our electoral ballot system works, the Politician's don't, so what hope have we?


OK! I won't try to tell you how politics works if you don't try to tell me how the Large Hadron Collider works. Deal? icon_smile.gif icon_smile.gif icon_smile.gif

and also wrote:
I dislike those people standing at Traffic Lights trying to sell me stuff or trying to guilt me into making 'donations' to their cause. Get a job and do your part to support yourself and your family!


Redoubled in No trumps! icon_evil.gif icon_evil.gif icon_evil.gif

and also wrote:
I believe that it doesn't take all the intellectuals to raise a child, it takes two parents....a mum (female) and a dad (male). Are you listening Elton!


Oddly enough, and despite anything you might have inferred from other posts, I'm with you on this one. You can't just rewrite many thousands of years of evolution. So that's two parents, one of each sex, and you might also add that they should be lovers.

and also wrote:
I believe 'illegal' is illegal no matter what the lawyers think - if you break the law you should forfeit your human rights!


Agreed! icon_cool.gif icon_cool.gif icon_cool.gif

and also wrote:
I believe the Union Jack flag should be the only one allowed to be flown in Great Britain, except outside Foreign Embassy's!


So no Olympic flags this year then? icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif

and also wrote:
If this makes me a BAD BRIT, then yes, I'm a BAD BRIT. If you are a BAD BRIT, please forward this to everyone you know.....

We want our country back!
My Country.....
I hope this offends all illegal immigrants.


It probably will. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

and also wrote:
My great, great, great grandfather watched as his friends died in the Boer War. My grandfather watched and bled as his friends died in the World Wars 1 & 2. Myself, our sons and daughters watched & bled as their friends died in The Falklands, Afghanistan and Iraq .. None of them died for the Afghanistan and Iraq Flag. Every BRIT died for our flag. Our young men are getting killed in Afghanistan whilst their young men run away, and get on a boat for BRITAIN, taking the place of genuine refugees!


Your great, great, great grandfather and his friends should have been tried for war crimes and, if found guilty, summarily dispatched with a bolt through the brain stem - which is a lot nicer than they deserved. icon_evil.gif icon_evil.gif icon_evil.gif

and also wrote:
At a well known University foreign students raised a Middle East flag on a flag pole, BRITISH students took it down. Guess who was expelled?


I could guess but I'm sure you'll tell me anyway. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

and also wrote:
Enough is enough

This message needs to be viewed by every BRIT; and every BRIT needs to stand up for BRITAIN ..

We've bent over to appease the Brit-haters long enough. I'm taking a stand.

I'm standing up because of the hundreds of thousands who died fighting in wars for this country, and for the BRITISH flag.

If you agree, stand up with me. If you disagree, please let me know. I will gladly remove you from my e-mail list. And shame on anyone who tries to make this a racist message. BRITS, stop giving away YOUR RIGHTS!

Let me make this clear! THIS IS OUR COUNTRY - if you don't like it......LEAVE!

This statement DOES NOT mean I'm against controlled immigration! YOU ARE WELCOME HERE, IN MY COUNTRY, welcome to come legally:

1. Get a sponsor!
2. Learn the LANGUAGE, as immigrants have in the past!
3. Live by OUR rules ! Dress as we ,BRITS do.
4. Get a job!
5. Pay YOUR Taxes!
6. No Social Security until you have earned it and Paid for it!
7. NOW find a place to lay your head!

If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone, then YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! We've gone so far the other way . . . bent over backwards not to offend anyone

Only BRITS seems to care when BRITISH Citizens are being offended!

WAKE UP BRITAIN/ENGLAND!


Sorry, I've never voted for the BNP and I'm not about to start now. icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif

and also wrote:
If you do not Pass this on, may your fingers cramp!


I did get finger cramp once. Don't ask, you really don't want to know. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

and also wrote:
Made in BRITAIN & DAMN PROUD OF IT!!!!!


Well let's face it. not much is made in Britain these days icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif icon_sad.gif - but heaven help us if you're the best we can manage! icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:25 pm Reply with quote

Space cat hummmmm, with a name like that are you from another galaxy? are you here illeagally?
However I've a confesion to make, in the first paragraph it says i am a religious freak, icon_confused.gif or words to that effect, i really should have paid more attention to the small print, because "I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT" and do not believe in god or faries, (the little ones with wings on their back) icon_mrgreen.gif icon_mrgreen.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:29 pm Reply with quote

Also Mr cat, i think you have far to much time on your hands, unless of course you are a dab hand on the keyboard. icon_neutral.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:54 am Reply with quote

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Also Mr cat, i think you have far to much time on your hands


Guilty as charged. icon_redface.gif icon_redface.gif icon_redface.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:47 am Reply with quote

Space cat wrote:
Quote:
Also Mr cat, i think you have far to much time on your hands


Guilty as charged. icon_redface.gif icon_redface.gif icon_redface.gif



Well Space Cat, I thought exactly the same, but at least you took the time to read all of it and give an opinion on all the aspects in a light hearted way, which this thread desperately needed and which served to prove that there are aspects of this that people identify with, although it was probably over aggressively worded.
But there again if as many think, that it was EDL or BNP propoganda, then perhaps it's their style.

I cannot believe that anyone raeding the original passage actually agrees with all of it, more likely just identifies with some of the issues it raised.


However, for introducing the light hearted approach I thank you !! icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:38 pm Reply with quote

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But when others (not of this country) do what they do in this country and are allowed to do what they do, but we are not allowed the same freedom of expression, something's wrong. Susie.
This is the point many of us are trying to make.

Been overdosing on all the tabloids again have we?....icon_wink.gif

It's a shame that some are still sucked in by sensational headlines isn't it... icon_rolleyes.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:03 pm Reply with quote

ellal wrote:
joinerjohn wrote:


But when others (not of this country) do what they do in this country and are allowed to do what they do, but we are not allowed the same freedom of expression, something's wrong. Susie.
This is the point many of us are trying to make.

Been overdosing on all the tabloids again have we?....icon_wink.gif

It's a shame that some are still sucked in by sensational headlines isn't it... icon_rolleyes.gif


What "sensational headlines" pray tell are you on about?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:53 pm Reply with quote

Norcon wrote:
ellal wrote:
joinerjohn wrote:


But when others (not of this country) do what they do in this country and are allowed to do what they do, but we are not allowed the same freedom of expression, something's wrong. Susie.
This is the point many of us are trying to make.

Been overdosing on all the tabloids again have we?....icon_wink.gif

It's a shame that some are still sucked in by sensational headlines isn't it... icon_rolleyes.gif


What "sensational headlines" pray tell are you on about?

All the ones that claim 'discrimination' is a one way thing...

You know - the type of story that is a large percentage of the ragtop's output that keep the already prejudiced happy in knowing they are 'right all along'... icon_wink.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:02 pm Reply with quote

JJ is bang on. No need to read any headlines to see that.
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