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MaverickJesus

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:00 pm Reply with quote

I have recently had an Alpha HE25 safety checked, and the engineer informed me that whilst the boiler itself was perfectly fine, the flue had been installed within 300mm of the top left corner of the kitchen window, and so it had failed, and suggested that even though he couldn't force me to not use the boiler, if I did he recommended I keep the kitchen windows shut for safety (which I have).

My question is, what solutions are there to rectify this? I'm close to finishing the decorating and want to get moved in asap - can the flue be 'extended' to make the gases expel outside of the 30mm limit, or does the flue need to be completely moved?

Many thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:07 pm Reply with quote

30 mm is very close and must have been fitted by an unregistered.

It all depends on the layout inside and outside and boiler model what could e done.

A photo would help!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:26 pm Reply with quote

As requested





The more work I do on this house the more my catalogue of DIY Bodge Job/Hall of Shame increases in size with evidence of the previous owners misdemeanour's - I'll save that for a different thread though icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:12 pm Reply with quote

Its a shame he didn't us a vertical flue kit and took it straight up. That may be an option even now, but would be costly. There may be a plume management kit available for your boiler and that would extend the flue outlet up and away from the window. You would have to check with Alpha.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:35 pm Reply with quote

I would say thats a lot more than 30mm from the window icon_confused.gif The appliance instructions will give guidance on flue terminations.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:23 pm Reply with quote

boabcelt wrote:
I would say thats a lot more than 30mm from the window icon_confused.gif The appliance instructions will give guidance on flue terminations.


Thats probably because I misspelt in the main post, it should say 300mm icon_eek.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:30 pm Reply with quote

The manufacturers instructions stipulate that a 300mm distance from windows is preferred but that the terminal can be within 25mm without impacting on the appliance operation. They recommend 300mm to avoid issues surrounding condensation pluming.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:32 pm Reply with quote

Really?

So was it valid for the engineer to whack a big red sticker on the side of the boiler saying it was dangerous and shouldn't be used? I'm not au fait on Gas regulations so I'm a bit in the dark on this...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:56 pm Reply with quote

i hate to keep harping back to this but the flue position is wrong according to MIs so why do ppl insist on saying use a plume kit the plume kit is for avoiding nusiance caused by pluming.IT is not a way round MIs and regs regarding position of flues in regard to openings in buildings
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:04 pm Reply with quote

boabcelt no one is doubting the that there will be no impact on appliance operation and if the aforementioned window did not open but the window is openable and so pocs could be coming back into an opening in building
contravening the MIs so how can you say ok thats fine
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:08 pm Reply with quote

and yes maverickjesus he was quite right to put a big red sticker on your boiler and you should be grateful to him for doing it because it may well make you think before you open that window and allow pocs back into your property
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:10 pm Reply with quote

peekay53 wrote:
and yes maverickjesus he was quite right to put a big red sticker on your boiler and you should be grateful to him for doing it because it may well make you think before you open that window and allow pocs back into your property
peekay53


Which is exactly why I got it safety tested in the first place icon_wink.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:17 pm Reply with quote

by the way what was the recommendation of the engineer who advised you flue position was incorrect did he not say how best to get over this problem.Seems to me he was ideally placed to find a soluton having been on site and able to weigh up alternatives
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:24 pm Reply with quote

He told me to replace literally everything, including the 'works fine' boiler, which is why I sought more opinions. I've never used this engineer before as it is a new area, so I don't have a trusted guy to work with (yet).
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