Why all the bg engineer bashing?

DeltaT2 · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:51 am

The norm around here is; the CPSs(cowboys in polo shirts) say to the customers, 'Aye luv, your systems needs a powerflush, but me & ma pal will do it on a Saturday for half of what SG would charge'. B&Q carpark is full of blue SG vans after 5.00pm every day, they do more homers than anyone else.

Nige F · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:15 am

raden wrote:

a friend's mother was quoted £7000 for a 4 bed installation

would this have been done by BG?

no - subbed out to local firms and a massive cut taken.

They were doing that in the `70s. I ended up as the fitter - self employed sub/sub contract - It paid a wage during the copper shortage

namsag · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:50 am

Delta we even had managers doing that so easy back in the olden times

Onetap · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:52 am

"Why all the bg engineer bashing?"
"We have over 7500 engineers working for us there's always going to be a few bad apples."

Your question contains a part of the answer.

You're not an engineer. BG tell the public that they have "7500 engineers working for us" and Joe and Josephine Public don't know any better since they know nothing about engineering.

It's a bit sad that BG can tell their "7500 engineers" that they are Engineers and the 7500 don't know enough about engineering to know that they're not.

Your homework for this week is to find out what an Engineer does. They don't fix boilers or washing machines. Recommended reading; 'Slide Rule; Autobiography of an Engineer' by Nevil Shute.

PS I can only speak from personal experience, but I found BG to be incompetent, dangerous and dishonest; I have the documents to back that up, should I ever need to. They also have a lot of shareholders and directors who have to be maintained in the lifestyle to which they are accustomed, so they'll never be competitive with a competent independent RGI.

mysteryman · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:55 am

Whilst delving into Nevil Shute's books, try his novel 'On the beach'.

Very alarming, given the situation in Syria.

Onetap · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:44 pm

Onetap · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:46 pm

mysteryman wrote:

Whilst delving into Nevil Shute's books, try his novel 'On the beach'.Very alarming, given the situation in Syria.

Or Iran.

Also try 'Trustee from the Toolroom' or 'Round the Bend'.

He didn't use his surname (Norway) for his writing because writing novels might have been viewed as an 'unprofessional' pastime for an engineer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevil_Shute

"His heroes tended to be middle class: solicitors, doctors, accountants, bank managers, engineers. Usually, like himself, they had enjoyed the privilege of university, not then within the purview of the lower classes. However (as in Trustee from the Toolroom), Shute valued the honest artisan and his social integrity and contributions to society, more than the contributions of the upper classes."

DeltaT2 · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:14 pm

Onetap wrote:

mysteryman wrote:

Whilst delving into Nevil Shute's books, try his novel 'On the beach'.Very alarming, given the situation in Syria.

Or Iran.

Also try 'Trustee from the Toolroom' or 'Round the Bend'.

He didn't use his surname (Norway) for his writing because writing novels might have been viewed as an 'unprofessional' pastime for an engineer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevil_Shute

"His heroes tended to be middle class: solicitors, doctors, accountants, bank managers, engineers. Usually, like himself, they had enjoyed the privilege of university, not then within the purview of the lower classes. However (as in Trustee from the Toolroom), Shute valued the honest artisan and his social integrity and contributions to society, more than the contributions of the upper classes."

Oh FFS!! Who flushed out the little Englander Sports Jacket & Flannels Brigade??!! I can smell the moth balls from here...........

Engineers my a.se, oily rag middle class tw.ts!!

mysteryman · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:06 pm

Just for a while we had a civilised debate on here.

Agile · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:09 pm

All good things come to an end!

nickso · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:46 pm

Agile wrote:

All good things come to an end!

Usually when you turn up.

Onetap · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:15 pm

DeltaT2 wrote:

Oh FFS!! Who flushed out the little Englander Sports Jacket & Flannels Brigade??!! I can smell the moth balls from here...........

Engineers my a.se, oily rag middle class tw.ts!!

Thanks for that, Mr. Puller, it neatly illustrates the point.

Shutes' attitudes are probably a bit dated, but then he's been dead for 60 years.

The major difference was that Britain then was the heart of the world's engineering industry. The 'upper classes', the unions and the benefit state have since destroyed that and the engineers, tool-makers and artisans have either emigrated, died or started selling insurance, solar panels or double-glazing.

Onetap · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:15 pm

gasservice1985 · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:16 pm

Alot of good boilers come to an end when BG turn up

Dan_Robinson · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:47 pm

Or Heatteam