Wimpey No Fines House Insulation problem

Please can anyone advise me if it is a good idea to cover blown, Rusty rods blown through plaster (please see link for photo) on the inside walls of the house with Thermal plasterboard. I know this will tidy the place up inside, but I just wonder if the damaged metal will become a bigger problem later on if it is left to continue rusting under the board.

Any advise from anyone who specializes in No Fines Houses would be most welcome

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Pete

No fines are usually externally insulated as internal insulation can cause more problems on some types. You need to check with a surveyor.

If there is no associated cracking to the walls - inside or out, then this corrosion is not normally a problem and is just due to internal humidity penetrating the plaster.

It might be best to give the steel a bit of a rub, and coat with a rust proofer from halfords, or a bit of hammerite or similar paint.

The thermal board should reduce the amount of moisture which permeates to the wall, and so stop further corrosion.

However, I have seen no fines walls experience interstitial condensation after being thermal boarded, so if you do tend to have a humid house due to lifestyle, then make sure you have adequate ventilation

Sorry I have only just seen your kind replies

There is cracking all over the walls in the house, the plaster has cracks all over it, and below this loads of the steel rods have blown through the wall. Please see photos below.

On the outside of the house you can see a lot of rusted rods, and also loads of these rods have just been rendered over. The expansion joints also have at least a 2inch gap running from the bottom to the top of the house, which also need to be repaired.

I am concerned that my housing association just wants to tidy the place up, but from what I can make out the place needs to be repaired properly. The strange things is that even some of the inner walls joining my neighbours property have blown, which seems to show that the steel used in the construction was poor quality and has just corroded.

I am not sure what right I have with regards to repairing the property, but it appears to me that all the walls on the outside of the house need to be stripped off back to the steel rods, treated and cladded, and the inside walls need to be stripped back also.

Any advice would be appreciated

Thanks

Peter

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These are known issues with this type of system. Your HA is not going to be able to strip back to the steel rods, treat and re-clad.

If you feel that the probelm is serious, and the HA is not carrying out their obligated repairs, then you will have to see a Solicitor, alledge disrepair, and take out action under the Landlord & Tenant Act 1985 (section 11) - google for info

But this is not disrepair, and your HA will refute your claims and carry out repairs generally as I posted above. And if they are smart, they will counterclaim against you for excessive humidity causing the plaster to blow.

Externally, the minerals in the render will cause staining which can be mistaken for rust

^woody^ said:

These are known issues with this type of system. Your HA is not going to be able to strip back to the steel rods, treat and re-clad.

If you feel that the probelm is serious, and the HA is not carrying out their obligated repairs, then you will have to see a Solicitor, alledge disrepair, and take out action under the Landlord & Tenant Act 1985 (section 11) - google for info

But this is not disrepair, and your HA will refute your claims and carry out repairs generally as I posted above. And if they are smart, they will counterclaim against you for excessive humidity causing the plaster to blow.

Externally, the minerals in the render will cause staining which can be mistaken for rust

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Thanks for the reply

I would not really expect the housing association to carry out the work as it seems like a job for specialist contractors.

At the end of the day it's not my house, but it just seemed the best long term solution to the problem, but obviously not the cheapest option. I will respect their decision on what their surveyors consider needs to be done to remedy the problems. But hopefully a few years down the line, I will not have to major disruption around the house again if the 'patching up' fails to sort out the issues.

Thanks again for your help

Peter