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With all due respect, why bother?

several links have been posted to far better product and suppliers.
 
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Thanks for that.

If I got a two camera system, could I add additional cameras at a later date?

Also, why can you get differing numbers of channels - what do the channels do?

Thanks
 
Thanks for that.

If I got a two camera system, could I add additional cameras at a later date?

Also, why can you get differing numbers of channels - what do the channels do?

Thanks
Channels are the camera inputs to the DVR.
Typical domestic - 4 way.
Next common size up - 8 way
etc

So, decide what you're longer term plans are before buying, what you require in terms of cover etc
 
So if I have understod you correctly then 4 channels means you can have up to 4 cameras, 8 channels = up to 8 camera etc.

Is there any major advantage / disadvantages of using dome camera's or the 'more traditional type' camera?

It appears that some cameras are only for indoor use so I will have to be careful what I select.

I think my initial requirement will be for 2 external cameras but I may want to add a further camera or two at a later date, so it seems that I should be looking for a DVD Recorder that has a minimum of 4 channels (it may not do any harm to have a couple of spare channels that could be used for the option of internal coverage as well?) .

Can the camera be position be adjusted through the software, for twicking purposes, or is it a case of getting the ladders out?

Could you recommend any specific DVD Recorder and cameras.
 
Domes are now in general use rather than traditional.
They make for a neater appearance.
Channels as you mention are one per camera, so a 12 cam system would require a 16 channel DVR, meaning 4 spare channels.
A channel is not required for remote viewing, that is done over the LAN/WAN.
With of course the correct software and phone. IPhone and Blackberry being the most supported.

Cameras need to be specific for the viewing required, for definition of the subject and for the prevailing light conditions. supplemental lighting may be required.
The larger Hard Drive the more data stored, although 12 Frames Per Second is the best in most cases. The human eye cannot really see more than that anyway. So a 500Gig would suffice for a 4 camera domestic situation. On larger multi camera systems I have fitted 4 Terrabites in the past. Expensive to say the least.

Try to avoid cameras with Infra reds in the casing, you get reflection issues and spiders like the atmosphere. A seperate ring and or lighting device is better.
Most DVR`s are now multi functional, but avoid anything under £300 IMHO. That is for a 4 way (Channel ) unit.
Movement or PTZ as it is known (Pan Tilt Zoom) is an extra. It requires more cable and a more expensive camera as it needs to be motor driven.
Also watch out for the protocals needed some DVR`s cannot control some/all cameras, a seperate keyboard is needed.
A decent DVR will allow electronic zoom and even "panning" of the available picture, but obviously not the same as true PTZ.
A good idea of what you need is a basis for a start of the design of the system.
Something like this will assist, http://download.cnet.com/CCTV-Design-Tool/3000-2078_4-10814324.html
It is far better to work out than buy and find it does not do the job.
Facial recognition or ANPR ( Auto Number Plate Recognition) are the major criteria now days. A cheap camera and DVR will NOT be up to this.
This is really where you get what you pay for.

I hope this has helped.
 
Mobile viewing can also be done on Android and Winmo too.
For low cost VFM DVR
http://www.cctvdirect.co.uk/product...esolution-Internet-&-Mobile-Phone-Ready!.html
8 way
http://www.cctvdirect.co.uk/product...esolution-Internet-&-Mobile-Phone-Ready!.html

Mid range
http://www.cctvdirect.co.uk/product...on-%2b-Web-%2b-Iphone-%2b-Mobile-Viewing.html
8 way
http://www.cctvdirect.co.uk/products/XDH-Compact-DVR-Real-Time-Internet-&-Mobile-Ready!!.html

You can tweak the options to best suit you're needs.

Camera
Either of these - dependent on area of coverage required.
These give a good, clear image without the dreaded reflection.
http://www.cctvdirect.co.uk/products/Twilight-FLD-%2d-High-Resolution-650TVL-Vandal-IR-Dome.html
http://www.cctvdirect.co.uk/product...ra-Low-Light-%2d-Adjustable-4%2d9mm-Lens.html

A current favourite of mine, but does cost a bit more - and no spiders.
http://www.cctvdirect.co.uk/product...-Ultra-High-Res-Dome-%2d-2.8%2d12mm-Lens.html
This does not use LEDs but is very good in low light. Advantage is, no tell tale red glow.
In a recent incident, in near pitch black, the image was as good as those from the the IR camera.
 
I`d go with your camera choices, they seem pretty reasonable.
DVR`s, still unsure about the low end of the market items.
Then again I would only be able to give links to trade only suppliers, not helpful in this instance.

But shooting myself in the foot I have sent people here http://www.cctv-centre.co.uk/electronics.htm and have had good reports back. I use these when I am in the area for bits and bobs and they are pretty good. However I always use the higher end of thier products. Not to say their cheaper stuff isnt decent, I just rather like to pay a little more on some kit.
 
Many thanks alumni and Alarm for your very useful help and advice.
 
Anytime.
Other questions just fire away.
And thanks for the thanks!
 
Gents although I have not yet purchased a CCTV, I now realise that the website you referred me to appears to offer most definitely better quality camera's than what argos offer, and also the HDDs capacity is larger, whilst the company also offers keener prices.

When I asked Argos for their specification they could not help, but instead gave me an email address to their supplier (MK Friedland), who confirmed the cameras are 420TVL and the HDD size is 160GB, SATA (upgradable to 1TB) - even to me 160GB seems small!!

This is just to say thanks again for the guidance, although I do not have the tech knowledge on CCTV I now can appreciate the benefits of using a specialist supplier rather than using a high street seller.

I notice that Argos are now selling their kits at 50% off, but I would say that is not attractive compared to cctv direct. The external Argos cameras are also like those you see protecting commercial premises and would stand out like a sore thumb, unlike the dome cameras from CCTV Direct.

Thanks again

Lou.
 
well we have just started using cctv direct and have found the twilight cameras a very good product 600TVL as standard,

the images produces are excellent
the XDH dvr (although its the top of the range) is a very good DVR

we have not yet used the smaller ECO range but if the top of the range one is anything to go by its worth it.

the twilight external dome with IR illumination are very good, good colour images during daylight hours, and very good monochrome during darkness (600 tvl day 700 tvl night)

i will reccomend cctvdirect they do what they say and they do what they do>
good kit at a very very good price!!

and thats form ourselves as a company that fit the stuff!!

we will continue to use the firm as the service is very good.

Oasis
 

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