Instead of power flushing

Phill Peck · 27 Feb 2012

LargeWrench said:
gasservice1985 said:

LargeWrench said:

This is just as good as power flushing if not better if you ask me. Those that have a vested interest in power flushing won't tell you that, but there is little difference. Think about it, flushing out a rad under mains water pressure is going to get rid of as much as the crap out of your rad as power flushing will.

However, i wouldn't really recommend it if you've got nice cream carpets all over the house!

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Absolute garbage from someone who knows nothing about powerflushing
How will you use chemicals
How will you reverse the flow

Water will allways take the easiest route so simply flushing mains water through will not achieve much more than draining down and re-filling and will not remove and solids or blockages

Better than powerflushing. Ha I really try not to be rude by you my dear chap are an idiot

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Use the chemicals in the same way you usually would. Put some x400 and let it run in the system for a few days. I know the outside method isn't going to clean your pipework but it's just as good for cleaning rads which is what i was getting at. Your doing the exact same thing that you are with a machine. All a machine is doing is pumping water round the system. It's not that hi-tec is it.

Reverse flow? Hmm..you could try switching the hose pipe round and cleaning it from the other side. Jeez, the way some people go on you'd think power flushing machines are like the second coming!

I've done many power flushes before and still do since it's much more convenient. All i'm saying is, if someone is a competent diy'er and is decorating and has the carpets up, i'd say go ahead and take each one individually outside and clean them under mains pressure. You'll get them as clean as a power flusher will and save yourself a wad of cash. I'm not surprised your advocating power flushing, aren't you the same guy that charges almost the same as BG?

I love the way all of a sudden every system needs a £500 power flush at the first sign of trouble with the boiler. The amount of times we've had enquires about power flushes as BG were too expensive yet once on the job realised it doesn't even need one. In a lot of cases "it needs a power flush" is a convenient solution for someone who can't rectify the fault properly.

You've obviously read some of my other posts then

Yes I charge as much as BG for a powerflush if nessasary but before I offer one or take it on I take water samples and try to identify the reason for the system sludge

I am advising what is best, I'm not Hannah do the job so the money is not coming my way

I hope the rads arnt too big would be fun removing and flushing some rads. I've got a 600x2600 double in my lounge don't fancy varying that outside

Phill Peck · 27 Feb 2012

TonyW2 said:
The question was not just about mains flushing the whole circuit vs powerflushing, --it was about removing radiators and cleaning them.

As an alternative to powerflushing

Which we can agree it is for the rads but does not do the same job as it doesn't do the rest of the system

vulcancontinental · 27 Feb 2012

FiremanT said:
If it's £600 for a powerflush you can buy quite a few nice, white radiators for the same money and they'll be fitted with top panels and end grilles and will look smart in the rooms of your house. Most of any muck will depart with the old radiators.

Maybe so, but as soon as you turn on the pump, they will be full of crud from the pipework.

Do you know in all the flushes I've done I've never had a problem with the pipework other than the stuff you can't shift with a flush at the H above the pump on an OV system. Not saying it can't happen but it's unusual. That's why I asked what type of system the OP had.

I wait to hear why the OP wants to do it in the first place.

mickyg · 27 Feb 2012

yeh never have problems with pipework that'll be fine...

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horace1 · 27 Feb 2012

Had boiler serviced and BG said boiler fine but wouldn't warranty the system again until power flushed as some rads luke warm at bottom

system is 13 yrs old, 10mm pipe

Hope this helps

vulcancontinental · 27 Feb 2012

mickyg said:
yeh never have problems with pipework that'll be fine...

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If I haven't then I haven't. Do you want me to make it up?

For interests sake where in the system was that Micky? I've seen that around the H and near the pump but never anywhere else. What was your opinion of the cause of that and was it pipework going to a radiator?

Do you think a powerflush will clear that out or did you try to and were successful? I've tried with FX2 but it hasn't touched it before I simply cut it out.

vulcancontinental · 27 Feb 2012

horace1 said:
Had boiler serviced and BG said boiler fine but wouldn't warranty the system again until power flushed as some rads luke warm at bottom

system is 13 yrs old, 10mm pipe

Hope this helps

Well that (to me) would rule out a powerflush as when I first started the Kamco and Fernox guys simply said powerflushing 10mm isn't something they recommend as you just can't get the flow through it. I followed their advice as they made the machines though I know people make money flushing microbore. Both companies suggested if microbore was blocked (and yours isn't) then a re-pipe is what they advise. Ring 'em up and ask, maybe they changed their minds.

If your rads are hot then you have circulation, if they're cooler at the bottom, and they normally are a little as the hottest water rises to the top headers it being less dense, then maybe there are deposits in there.

Some guys have been known to talk up a job though I'm careful not to say that's the case here.

Personally if I was in that situation I would remove the rads and clean them rather than do it through the pipework.

There are a couple of other things not known here like if they're double entry valves and what type of system you have but if it's standard stuff I'd flush the rads though two pairs of hands is a definite advantage.

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