What wire for electric oven ?

digitalart · 18 Aug 2014

Hey guys

Newbie here, could really do with some advice.

I've just bought a new Zanussi ZCV68310XA 60cm Electric Cooker in Stainless steel here:

http://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p/zcv68310xa/zanussi-zcv68310xa-60cm-electric-cooker

I need to install this into the wall, I took my old one out, 3 simple wires, done, but since the new wiring in the kitchen and this new unit I am now at a loss as to what to do.

I went to B&Q to get some wire, while looking I found 3 wire packs, 4 wire packs, some were 2400w some were 7000w so I left it and I have come here hopefully for some advice.

I simply cannot afford the £129 for someone to come and put the wire in for me

If someone could tell me:

1) What amp and watt wire I need that would be suitable for this oven for me to purchase

and

2) What wire goes where lol.

I have read online its as simple as wiring a plug but without knowing what strength wire to get I didn't want to take a gamble on this new oven.

I have some pics below which I hope can help someone give me some pointers.

Many thanks in advance

Matt.

Taylortwocities · 18 Aug 2014

The device will come with instructions and these will tell you what type of cable you need. What does it say?

or

What is the rating of the cooker in amps?. This will be on a plate on the back of the cooker, or on the side panel as you open the door.

As for how to connect it up. your cooker is ready to be cabled up and it has been configured for the UK. The top drawing oin your picture clearly shows where the L, N and earth cables go. If you cannot understand that then (with respect) I suggest that paying £129 might be a safer bet.

JohnW2 · 18 Aug 2014

Taylortwocities said:
... or ... What is the rating of the cooker in amps?. This will be on a plate on the back of the cooker, or on the side panel as you open the door.

The spec says:

Connected load (W) 11300 W ... Fuse size (A) 30 A

Taylortwocities said:
As for how to connect it up. your cooker is ready to be cabled up and it has been configured for the UK. The top drawing oin your picture clearly shows where the L, N and earth cables go. If you cannot understand that then (with respect) I suggest that paying £129 might be a safer bet.

It's difficult to disagree with that.

Kind Regards, John

AndyPRK · 18 Aug 2014

Get some 6mm cable from b&q

Connect brown to L
Blue to N
Green/yellow bare wire to the earth symbol

The outlet on the wall has been fitted upside down. Try and turn it round.
Use the cable clamps provided to hold the wire

JohnW2 · 18 Aug 2014

AndyPRK said:
Get some 6mm cable from b&q ... Connect brown to L ... Blue to N ... Green/yellow bare wire to the earth symbol

Do I take it that you are advising the use of T+E, rather than flex, to connect the cooker? [if so, the 'bare wire' obviously needs to have green/yellow sleeving put on it]

Kind Regards, John.

flameport · 18 Aug 2014

If this cooker is a replacement, then what happened to the cable used to connect the old one?

AndyPRK · 18 Aug 2014

JohnW2 said:
AndyPRK said:

Get some 6mm cable from b&q ... Connect brown to L ... Blue to N ... Green/yellow bare wire to the earth symbol

Click to expand...

Do I take it that you are advising the use of T+E, rather than flex, to connect the cooker? [if so, the 'bare wire' obviously needs to have green/yellow sleeving put on it]

Kind Regards, John.

Yes I don't think b&q sell flex. If you can find it post a link up.

JohnW2 · 18 Aug 2014

AndyPRK said:
Yes I don't think b&q sell flex. If you can find it post a link up.

I don't think B&Q do sell flex that big - but I wouldn't say that, in itself, was necessarily a particularly good reason for using T+E.

Kind Regards, John

digitalart · 18 Aug 2014

Hey guys.

Thanks a lot for the info, very much appreciated.

OK to answer some questions.

It appears I edited the wall image upside down by mistake, I can confirm its the other way round on the wall.

In the manual it says:

Covering Terminal Board
The recommended cross-section area is six square millimetres (6 mm2).

Does that mean I need 6mm cable ?

There is no other information in the manual regarding suitable cable, watts, amps or anything.

Ohh sticker inside says ...

220-240v / 50hz
kW max = 11,3

No mention of amps though ?

The cooker is a brand new replacement, I literally opened the box and noticed that the grill element in the top oven has fallen on one side so I am waiting for an exchange coming on Wednesday.

Can someone tell me what FLEX is please ? and, based on the information we have now, does anyone have a link to a suitable lead ? I'll bake you a nice cake when its working

Thanks in advance

Taylortwocities · 18 Aug 2014

digitalart said:
Covering Terminal Board
The recommended cross-section area is six square millimetres (6 mm2).

Does that mean I need 6mm cable ?

Of course it does. It means that you need 6mm² cable.
Ideally use flexible cable, but you'll have trouble finding that in the sheds. You would need an electrical wholesaler.
Twin & earth is not ideal but its what most people use. (Oh yes they do!)

digitalart · 18 Aug 2014

Wonderful, getting somewhere, I can almost taste that lamb dinner

Starting to learn the vocabulary now (sorry for being so new)

T&E twin and earth ? twin cable and an earth, so something like this would suffice ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bulk-Hardwa...408383774&sr=1-2&keywords=6mm+flex+cable+oven

That is, providing I cannot find 6mm flexible cable first ?

planemad · 18 Aug 2014

Also make sure your connection are tight both ends otherwise you can have problems in the future.
Also if this was me installing I would only charge £50 and I would supply the cable so not sure where you are getting £129 from.

Thanks

JohnW2 · 18 Aug 2014

planemad said:
Also if this was me installing I would only charge £50 and I would supply the cable so not sure where you are getting £129 from.

My understanding is that £129 is the "installation charge" charged by the supplier (Appliances Direct). Don't forget that the guy actually doing the installation work probably won't get even £50 of that!

KInd Regards, John

AL66 · 18 Aug 2014

In the instrurtions, as well as specifying 6mm, does it not also specify cable types?

I think you'll find H07RN-F is one of them (and twin & earth isn't) - metre or two from here would probably be the least hassle way to get a short length:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H07-RN-F3...al_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4184534ce7

digitalart · 19 Aug 2014

I have checked this morning and no where in the manual or on the cooker itself does it mention cable types, it just says it must be installed by a qualified electrician.

Thanks a lot for the link, that's exactly what I was looking for, i'll grab 2 meters of that later then and hopefully that will be problem solved

Really appreciate all the help from everyone here, this will have saved me £120+ I don't have.

I did look to subscribe to the forum yesterday but couldn't see where ? if there is a subscription please let me know, wouldn't have got this far without your help and advice.

Cheers

diynot

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