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ptarling

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:55 am Reply with quote

Hello,

If anyone can give me some advice - would appreciate it...

Thinking of buying an olive removing tool. As far as I can see there is a cheaper model that will remove both 15/22mm olives (the tool screws on to the existing compression locking nut and you pull the olive off) or there is a more expensive tool that splits the olive (but 2 seperate tools required to do both 15 & 22mm).

Will the cheaper one suffice or are they unreliable..???

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:12 pm Reply with quote

i bought a 15mm mor expensive type.

it lasted about a month. the cutting teeth are now blunt and it compresses the olive (and pipe) and in so doing causes more work !

i now have gone back to me hack saw
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:51 am Reply with quote

I've got them (all!).
The screwy one which does both sizes (unless the threads's the older finer prestex type) is the better bet.

Either that or cut yourself a set of very short lengths of copper pipe, and put them in a compression fitting, starting with the shortest, and do the nut up. As you do so it'll slide the olive along the pipe. When tight, undo the fitting and put a longer bit of pipe in, and repeat. See?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:13 am Reply with quote

The splitting-type tool does for me, for 15mm. Larger sizes = less frequently needed and easier to work on = carry on using hacksaw.

The other problem is the quality of the plumbing BEFORE you came on the scene! If a compression joint has been over-tightened so that the olive has dug in and 'necked' the tube, there's no point removing it in most cases! You won't get a leaktight joint on the tube a second time anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:44 am Reply with quote

The plug centre of the screw-on type, goes some way to reshaping the pipe.
SOmeone ought to make a tap-in bar of the right size to do the job. 13.6mm!
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ptarling

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:39 am Reply with quote

ChrisR wrote:
I've got them (all!).
The screwy one which does both sizes (unless the threads's the older finer prestex type) is the better bet.

Either that or cut yourself a set of very short lengths of copper pipe, and put them in a compression fitting, starting with the shortest, and do the nut up. As you do so it'll slide the olive along the pipe. When tight, undo the fitting and put a longer bit of pipe in, and repeat. See?




This sounds like a good plan!!!! Thanks for advice
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ptarling

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:42 am Reply with quote

JPC wrote:
i bought a 15mm mor expensive type.

it lasted about a month. the cutting teeth are now blunt and it compresses the olive (and pipe) and in so doing causes more work !

i now have gone back to me hack saw



Thanks for advice!!
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ben28

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:22 pm Reply with quote

I have monument 15mm/22mm removal tool, it is very usefull and avoids the problem of cutting the pipe and the olive when using a hacksaw. Occasionaly the effort required to turn the handle can be difficult in tight spaces. On the whole its a usefull bit of kit though.
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nigelad

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:23 pm Reply with quote

Didn't know you get tools to deal with olives until I saw this thread!
I replaced 9 rad valves with TRVs recently, and removing the old olives was the hardest part of the job!
I was too scared of damaging the pipes with a hacksaw, so wore them down with a file until I could rip them open and off with an old jeweller's screwdriver icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:27 pm Reply with quote



i use these
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:30 pm Reply with quote

nigelad wrote:
Didn't know you get tools to deal with olives until I saw this thread!
I replaced 9 rad valves with TRVs recently, and removing the old olives was the hardest part of the job!
I was too scared of damaging the pipes with a hacksaw, so wore them down with a file until I could rip them open and off with an old jeweller's screwdriver icon_smile.gif


Crikey!!! The award for perseverance goes to.... YOU!
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micktheframer

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:36 pm Reply with quote

I'm with scatmanjohn on this one....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:26 pm Reply with quote

Never used or saw one, to be honest never saw the need... Is it so much better and quicker than the 30 seconds it takes to cut with a junior hacksaw and an remove with an old electricians screwdriver. Or just wallop the nut an olive off with pair of grips.
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dan the man

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:33 pm Reply with quote

scatmanjohn wrote:


i use these


yup i use these in 15 and 22.

otherwise a hacksaw is easy enough imo if u get technique right
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pigeon1974

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:26 pm Reply with quote

I use both and the one scatman recommends is the best. And it helps strengthen the wrists.

There is a technique though -be careful and slow (that's what she said) or you can nip the copper pipe as well.
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