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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:54 pm    Post Subject:
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Hi, I asked my builder to put two new double sockets in the living room. He did so but then told me he had broken the ring.. but that it would be ok. Im worried about this. But due to ignorance I dont know what to say to him.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:07 pm    Post Subject:
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Twhack him round the head with the biggest fring pan you can lay your hands on, then refuse to pay him for his work until it has been checked.

Next, employ an electrician to find out wether the work is safe, and if not rectify any problems.

A broken ring is not OK. It could be quite dangerous if left as it is.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:19 pm    Post Subject:
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Are you sure he said broken the ring and not broken INTO the ring?

The latter is fine, but the former is dangerous and should be changed

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:28 pm    Post Subject:
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In any event, he should have tested the circuit for continuity, insulation resistance and something called earth fault loop resistance.

the results of the tests he would have noted on the Minor Works Certificate that he would have given you. He did give you one, didnt he icon_wink.gif

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i would doubt that very much after all a builder doing electrical work is like second nature to him , like me as an electrician piloting the space shuttle icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif
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Yup, mix cement - install wiring - bill customer. Definite synergy.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:57 pm    Post Subject:
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Thanks for your advice. He is a twerp, but will do properly if I insist. I just dont want to see that ugly mug again, making choices for me without giving me an option, then the works done. It goes on and on.
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You say he will do it properly if you insist, but as you are here asking a question about broken rings then obviously you do not know how it should be done and are now questioning his abilities therefore i recommend you get an electrician to look at the problem and not a bricklayer, or perhaps you know a carpenter who has a neon screwdriver who can sort it for you.

When a brick wall is built badly you can see it, when a socket is wired wrongly behind the faceplate you cannot , till it goes up in flames as it has been overloaded and is still on the 32A fuse for the ring main .
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Taylortwocities wrote:
something called earth fault loop resistance.


Are you sure?........ icon_lol.gif icon_wink.gif

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i think he means earth fault loop impedance

not resistance

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OK so I'm a bit DC today...

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get an NIC EIC approved sparky to sort this pronto
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I think he has. It was 6 months ago, after all.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:13 pm    Post Subject:
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sparkydude wrote:
i would doubt that very much after all a builder doing electrical work is like second nature to him , like me as an electrician piloting the space shuttle icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif


No wonder your out of hours call-out bill is huge!!

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