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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:17 pm Post Subject:
how safe/unsafe is this?
Doing some alterations on our kitchen. Kitchen was fitted some 8 years ago by "qualified"fitters. Every socket has been wired like this What do you experts think?
Last edited by bikerm4 on Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:32 pm, edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:23 pm Post Subject:
The cpc's require terminating at the socket face, not the backbox. You may need to extend them to reach as they look to be on the short side.
Although you don't need to connect the earth terminal on socket face to the backbox I would consider it to be good practice and would do so.
you are supposed to just paste the net brackets in like this
but no grommets and earth sleaving too short. seen worse
But surely the earths should terminate in the socket face not the backbox, with a link wire to the backbox. The only way an appliance is earthed is through the screws fixing the front to the backbox.
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:37 pm Post Subject:
As cabinman and garymo have said, the earth wires should connect directly to the terminal on the socket front. You may run a short tail to the back box, if the back box isn't accessable then some don't bother as it is earthed via the screw and fixed lug tho I prefer to put the link in anyway.
There should be a couple of gromets in there, are the wires heading downwards and across also?
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:48 pm Post Subject:
Regarding the lack of grommets, I would never dream of not using them but in this case the requirement would be more of a good practice issue than from regulations.
The outer pvc sheath on the twin&earth is there for mechanical protection and given that there's little chance of sharp edges around the knockouts and no chance of movement during normal service I can't see the insulation of the inner conductors being damaged.
It's sloppy though.
There should be a couple of gromets in there, are the wires heading downwards and across also?
Yes, 1 wire is running across to the next socket and one down to a junction box then into another room. Going to get a spark round to check and upgrade everything.
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