making my garage a kids den?? regs and permission.

jpread988 · 6 Feb 2009

i have an external garage it already has power ect i just want to lay a carpet put a sofa and a TV in there for the kids to use.

1 do i need planning permission
2 do i need to follow regs or can i just do it

regards
jay

badgerchief · 6 Feb 2009

you`ll need to apply for change of use

and comply to building regs

jpread988 · 6 Feb 2009

so just to make a kids den i would need to insalate the floor and build extra brick skin to insulatethe walls as per new regs

seems a bit extream

noseall · 6 Feb 2009

change of use only applies when altering usage from domestic to business usage. this is interpreted as a material change of usage.

e.g. if you wish to change the garage into a spray shop. this would then be a commercial venture and require planning permission.

you can park your caravan, but you can not be a caravan park.

get me drift.

you still need to make the garage comfortable for the sprogs though.

badgerchief · 6 Feb 2009

noseall said:
change of use only applies when altering usage from domestic to business usage. this is interpreted as a material change of usage.

e.g. if you wish to change the garage into a spray shop. this would then be a commercial venture and require planning permission.

you can park your caravan, but you can not be a caravan park.

get me drift.

you still need to make the garage comfortable for the sprogs though.

are you sure a couple of years back i helped convert a mate`s garage into a kitchen breakfast room and he definatly had to apply for change of use??

noseall · 6 Feb 2009

badgerchief said:
are you sure a couple of years back i helped convert a mate`s garage into a kitchen breakfast room and he definatly had to apply for change of use??

what kind of hot dogs was he selling?

noseall · 6 Feb 2009

building reg's will apply if the garage is to become heated dwelling.

planning will apply if the garage is to become a commercial premises or a separate dwelling in itself, i.e. a separate address.

probably.

Symptoms · 6 Feb 2009

jp - I reckon that you'll be just storing that old sofa, carpet and telly in there so there's no need for approvals. If the kids discover this storage area and decide to make, what we in the old days called a camp, then 'that's what kids do'. Warning - don't make it too comfortable as you'll never see them in the house ... on second thoughts

On a serious note, how do you know what they'll be getting-up to - smoking dope, surfing the filthy parts of the throb-net, sha*ging. Consider installing CCTV (you can get wirelass tackle).

badgerchief · 6 Feb 2009

noseall said:
badgerchief said:

are you sure a couple of years back i helped convert a mate`s garage into a kitchen breakfast room and he definatly had to apply for change of use??

Click to expand...

what kind of hot dogs was he selling?

no hot dogs but it did have underfloor heating maybe this was the reason?

^woody^ · 7 Feb 2009

There is no change of use.

All domestic property is in the same 'use class' in terms of planning legislation, so whatever the rooms are used for, or converted to, they still remain domestic use.

The only planning consideration would be if there was a condition on the original planning approval which requires a garage to remain as a garage

If the garage is going to be used as a room, then it will require a building regulation application

Thermo · 7 Feb 2009

i dont think you can class putting carpet in a garage as a habitable room!

i dont think you need to worry if thats all you are doing, if you are really concerned give the council a ring, but i wouldnt lose any sleep over it.

Symptoms · 7 Feb 2009

Thermo wrote: "... but i wouldnt lose any sleep over it." What, even if they were " ... smoking dope, surfing the filthy parts of the throb-net, sha*ging" in there"?

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