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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:17 am    Post Subject:
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My bay window is getting a little decrepit and the wood is pretty badly rotten. As much as a crying shame it would be I'd like to replace it with UPVC. I know I know I will get shot down for this but I have thought long and hard and mending the old window isn't really an option.

So my current windows looks very similar to this:



I'll obviously be seeking planning permission but all the other houses down my street have it done so cant see it being a problem.

Any ideas where I would start with this? I'm assuming the whole top section above the bricked up area will need to go?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:01 am    Post Subject:
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neds wrote:
I know I know I will get shot down for this but I have thought long and hard and mending the old window isn't really an option.

Every wooden windows are repairable, you have a lovely bay window adding the character to your property, is that lead light windows on top, if so, even better. The upvc windows will devalue your property and the wooden windows will outlast the upvc. Plenty of stuff on the market for repairing rotten wood or a good carpenter can sort it out for you

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:32 pm    Post Subject:
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Well thats not my window but its pretty much identical apart from the top section which is also leaded but multicoloured glass.

The other reason I wanted to go Double glazing was the sound and heat insulation. I was thinking of maybe reglazing with new sealed units however I sont think the pains are wide enough to accept it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:08 pm    Post Subject:
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neds wrote:
I'm assuming the whole top section above the bricked up area will need to go?



Of course that is the bay window icon_rolleyes.gif

Also, why apply for planning permission - are you in a special area?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:47 pm    Post Subject:
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Well I assumed any work on the front of the house will require permission since the whole bay window area is going to be pretty much rebuilt I thought I'd best double check.

I've seen some of the houses in the street keep the wooden frame and just fitted the units, this could be one possibility and thus keeping the roof structure and minimising the cost and time associated with it. I'm not sure if this is good practice however.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:11 pm    Post Subject:
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You don't need planning permission to change window frames unless you are in a conservation area etc or the property is listed.

If a frame has casement windows, or is some sort of sub-frame arrangement then yes you can just change the casements and leave the main frame in. But this tends to leave massively thick frame sections afterwards.

But its a waste of time as if you are leaving some timber frame, then you may as well replace the other parts with timber, and have these made for dg units
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:20 pm    Post Subject:
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Cheers for clearing that up. I didn't even think about replacing the casement windows with wooden DG units, thats another option I guess. I'll have to measure the windows up and get some quotes for the units.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:39 pm    Post Subject:
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neds,
You don't have to lose the roof structure if you are replacing the bay window.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:28 am    Post Subject:
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please consider replacing with a timber window made to modern standards. they have got a bad name (for rot) from designs using poor quality timber and bad detailing.

http://www.woodforgood.com/building-sustainably/windows-and-other-joinery/

ask for drained and ventilated glazing.
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