A silly-billy question!

dextrous · 7 Jul 2009

So, we all know about new mains wiring installations having to be installed properly by qualified electricians or with BCO involvement. Let's not argue about the details on this thread please.

My silly little question relates to other sorts of "wiring" - in particular:

* Aerial/Satellite cables
* networking wiring
* alarm wires
* telephone wires
* bell wires

Do these need to have any related paperwork, or are they entirely within the bounds of the average DIYer without fear of recrimination?

kkynaston · 7 Jul 2009

All ok for the diy-er
As long as telephone cabling is after the master socket

dextrous · 7 Jul 2009

kkynaston said:
All ok for the diy-er
As long as telephone cabling is after the master socket

So I can get rid of my pole climbing harness and crampons then

Thanks

securespark · 7 Jul 2009

I only have the first Approved Document P to hand, but it says that work in a special location on

"Telephone or ELV wiring and equipment for the purposes of communications, IT,signalling, control & similar purposes"

is notifiable.

Is this the same in the current document?

dextrous · 7 Jul 2009

securespark said:
I only have the first Approved Document P to hand, but it says that work in a special location on

"Telephone or ELV wiring and equipment for the purposes of communications, IT,signalling, control & similar purposes"

is notifiable.

Is this the same in the current document?

Where special locations = bathrooms and kitchens? If so, the rest of the house and garden (log cabin) is OK?

ColJack · 7 Jul 2009

actually, special location is just locations containing a shower or bath.. kitchen is a seperate entity..

so basically you can wire anything you like that's not mains as long as it's not in a bathroom / shower room.. ( though given that the BR is still quoting the 16th edition, I'd count PV as mains until told otherwise by the next update to the BR )

dextrous · 8 Jul 2009

PV? Remind me what that is

securespark · 8 Jul 2009

ColJack said:
actually, special location is just locations containing a shower or bath.. kitchen is a seperate entity..

Hmm....

"Special Location" in Approved Document P - is that the same as "Special Location" in BS7671:2008?

ban-all-sheds · 8 Jul 2009

Photo-voltaic.

Which is a special installation in its own right, and therefore notifiable.

dextrous · 8 Jul 2009

ban-all-sheds said:
Photo-voltaic.

Which is a special installation in its own right, and therefore notifiable.

And therefore not something I intend to install myself.

ban-all-sheds · 8 Jul 2009

securespark said:
"Special Location" in Approved Document P - is that the same as "Special Location" in BS7671:2008?

No.

ColJack · 8 Jul 2009

as specifically described in the building regulations..

“special location” means a location within the limits of the relevant zones specified for a bath, a shower, a swimming or paddling pool or a hot air sauna in the Wiring Regulations, sixteenth edition, published by the Institution of Electrical Engineers and the British Standards Institution as BS 7671: 2001 and incorporating amendments 1 and 2.

missed the bit about swimming pool, paddling pool or hot air sauna.. your average houses won't have those, but if you do big houses you might encounter them..

and

“kitchen” means a room or part of a room which contains a sink and food preparation facilities;

BAS, you're absolutely right, it never clicked in my head that PV is an "electricity generator".. don't know why I didn't make that mental connection....

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A silly-billy question!

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