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pj11

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:55 pm Reply with quote

Has anybody had any experience with a citreon picasso 2.0 hdi engine (diesel),having intermittent non start/cutting out fault. Changed the fuel pump in the tank about 2 months ago, run fine.But has now decided to not start /cut out again. Towed home by AA, who couldnot get it going, but left with no low fuel pressure, fault code.Checked out the fuel system appeared to be no fuel from tank to filter(pump not working?) fiddle around with electrics in engine bay,checked out fuel filter,it started ,no problems,no warning lights on.Since it has cut out and restarted intermittently on several occasions.Is there a fuel pump relay fitted ? i suspect the fuel pump is losing its feed. Any help appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:14 pm Reply with quote

a friends peugeot with this engine has a similar problem but his struggles to start,there is a pressure valve on the fuel system in the engine bay somewhere that plays up. Hes taken it to a local diesel specialist this week so i will ask him what they found
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:13 pm Reply with quote

You might find it might be what i call a multifunction relay, which is normally brown in colour and is located under the bonnet on either flitch. It slots in to a black plug with a red locking device. When it fails to start try giving the relay a tap and see if it starts.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:25 pm Reply with quote

ask here what they dont know about pics aint worth knowing.
http://www.citroenpicasso.org.uk/picasso/
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:48 am Reply with quote

pj11 wrote:
Has anybody had any experience with a citreon picasso 2.0 hdi engine (diesel),having intermittent non start/cutting out fault. Changed the fuel pump in the tank about 2 months ago, run fine.But has now decided to not start /cut out again. Towed home by AA, who couldnot get it going, but left with no low fuel pressure, fault code.Checked out the fuel system appeared to be no fuel from tank to filter(pump not working?) fiddle around with electrics in engine bay,checked out fuel filter,it started ,no problems,no warning lights on.Since it has cut out and restarted intermittently on several occasions.Is there a fuel pump relay fitted ? i suspect the fuel pump is losing its feed. Any help appreciated.

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Thanks for your help. I replaced the engine management double relay cost 12, around three weeks ago (1000miles approx), no fault , touch wood! icon_biggrin.gif . So if you experience a similar fault, for the cost of the relay i would try this,it a 2 minute job.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:48 am Reply with quote

pj11 wrote:
Has anybody had any experience with a citreon picasso 2.0 hdi engine (diesel),having intermittent non start/cutting out fault. Changed the fuel pump in the tank about 2 months ago, run fine.But has now decided to not start /cut out again. Towed home by AA, who couldnot get it going, but left with no low fuel pressure, fault code.Checked out the fuel system appeared to be no fuel from tank to filter(pump not working?) fiddle around with electrics in engine bay,checked out fuel filter,it started ,no problems,no warning lights on.Since it has cut out and restarted intermittently on several occasions.Is there a fuel pump relay fitted ? i suspect the fuel pump is losing its feed. Any help appreciated.

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Thanks for your help. I replaced the engine management double relay cost 12, around three weeks ago (1000miles approx), no fault , touch wood! icon_biggrin.gif . So if you experience a similar fault, for the cost of the relay i would try this,its a 2 minute job.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:58 pm Reply with quote

pj11 wrote:
pj11 wrote:
Has anybody had any experience with a citreon picasso 2.0 hdi engine (diesel),having intermittent non start/cutting out fault. Changed the fuel pump in the tank about 2 months ago, run fine.But has now decided to not start /cut out again. Towed home by AA, who couldnot get it going, but left with no low fuel pressure, fault code.Checked out the fuel system appeared to be no fuel from tank to filter(pump not working?) fiddle around with electrics in engine bay,checked out fuel filter,it started ,no problems,no warning lights on.Since it has cut out and restarted intermittently on several occasions.Is there a fuel pump relay fitted ? i suspect the fuel pump is losing its feed. Any help appreciated.

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Thanks for your help. I replaced the engine management double relay cost 12, around three weeks ago (1000miles approx), no fault , touch wood! icon_biggrin.gif . So if you experience a similar fault, for the cost of the relay i would try this,it a 2 minute job.


i think I have the same problem on an 2003 2.0l HDI can you tell me where this relay is and what it looks like as mine has been off the road for 2 months now and it is very frustrating.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:16 pm Reply with quote

Hi the relay is located on the right hand bulk head , is brown in colour
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and cost about 12 quid.

Have you checked if your fuel pump(in fuel tank) is running ok, with ignition switched on you can hear you fuel pump run for a few seconds and the filter housing pressurise. You could also disconnect the fuel filter inlet pipe then switch on ignition fuel should flow from pipe(stick a bag over end to catch fuel),if not tap bottom of fuel tank to get pump going this is a very common faut with hdi engines,the pump wears and metal filelings contaminate the filter.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:50 pm Reply with quote

pj11 wrote:
Hi the relay is located on the right hand bulk head , is brown in colour
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and cost about 12 quid.

Have you checked if your fuel pump(in fuel tank) is running ok, with ignition switched on you can hear you fuel pump run for a few seconds and the filter housing pressurise. You could also disconnect the fuel filter inlet pipe then switch on ignition fuel should flow from pipe(stick a bag over end to catch fuel),if not tap bottom of fuel tank to get pump going this is a very common faut with hdi engines,the pump wears and metal filelings contaminate the filter.


icon_confused.gif icon_confused.gif I cant see a brown relay or any relay on my bulk head, the pump runs until the engine cuts out then you cant hear it running, unless you leave it a few minutes then try it again,it does sound a bit squeeky when running, otherwise you just hear it clicking.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:19 pm Reply with quote

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pj11 wrote:
Hi the relay is located on the right hand bulk head , is brown in colour
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and cost about 12 quid.

Have you checked if your fuel pump(in fuel tank) is running ok, with ignition switched on you can hear you fuel pump run for a few seconds and the filter housing pressurise. You could also disconnect the fuel filter inlet pipe then switch on ignition fuel should flow from pipe(stick a bag over end to catch fuel),if not tap bottom of fuel tank to get pump going this is a very common faut with hdi engines,the pump wears and metal filelings contaminate the filter.


icon_confused.gif icon_confused.gif I cant see a brown relay or any relay on my bulk head, the pump runs until the engine cuts out then you cant hear it running, unless you leave it a few minutes then try it again,it does sound a bit squeeky when running, otherwise you just hear it clicking.


hi is the relay in the engine bay bulkhead or on the inside drivers bulkhead behind that pull out panel?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:53 pm Reply with quote




This is the relay but it may have a brown top.it will be on the nearside bulkhead or the offside inner flitch.(under bonnet)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:15 pm Reply with quote

skippster76 wrote:



This is the relay but it may have a brown top.it will be on the nearside bulkhead or the offside inner flitch.(under bonnet)



does anyone know where is the best to get one? BMS, CITROEN, HALFORDS ect
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:28 pm Reply with quote

Main dealer Citroen/Peugeot depends what you have.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:35 pm Reply with quote

skippster76 wrote:
Main dealer Citroen/Peugeot depends what you have.



brilliant thanks skipster icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:45 pm Reply with quote

mwf66 wrote:
skippster76 wrote:



This is the relay but it may have a brown top.it will be on the nearside bulkhead or the offside inner flitch.(under bonnet)



does anyone know where is the best to get one? BMS, CITROEN, HALFORDS ect


mine seems to totall different, it has 2 high voltage cables going in the bottom and a green multi plug! and its black all over apart from the underneath, any ideas anyone?

look in my album theres 4 pic's of it. dont know how to load them on here!
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