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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:39 am    Post Subject:
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I have a ceiling light I would like to remove. How do I go about this?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:40 pm    Post Subject:
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First of all you would need to understand how lighting circuits work - there are some diagrams in the reference sections.

Then you need to see what cables you have going into your light.

Then report back!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:12 pm    Post Subject:
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If its just the light you're removing, take the wires out of the light fitting, NOTING WHAT GOES WHERE, and replicate these connections (without the one to the light itself, of course) in a junction box (round thing with holes in the sides) in the loft, NOT CHOC BLOC.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:53 pm    Post Subject:
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If its just the light you're removing, take the wires out of the light fitting, NOTING WHAT GOES WHERE, and replicate these connections (without the one to the light itself, of course) in a junction box (round thing with holes in the sides) in the loft, NOT CHOC BLOC.


if plastered over and there is a floor above, they should be crimped
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What about the switch?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:21 pm    Post Subject:
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Thank you for all your replies. Being a complete amateur I am struggling to understand some of the lingo!

To give a clearer picture the light I want to remove is one of three hanging ceiling lights. I only want two as I intend to use bigger lampshades. Therefore the switch does not need to be removed. As suggested I was hoping to be able to remove the light socket and shove the cable up in the ceiling void and plaster over the hole. It sounds as though this can be done if I 'crimp' the end of the cable, but I don't know what crimping is?!

Lastly, before undertaking this task is it sufficient to switch the electricity off at the mains or do I have to do anything else before taking off the light socket?

Any advice gratefully received.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:33 pm    Post Subject:
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Hi there!

If you have a modern consumer unit (the box with all the fuses in) you can turn off the individual electrical circuits e.g. the lighting circuits.
If not then turn the main power switch off on the consumer unit (usually a large red switch).

In most lighting circuits there are 2 cables for the circuit (one coming in and one going out of the ceiling rose), a switch cable and the light cable. It could possible have one less circuit cable (if it's the end light in the circuit).

You need to turn the power off and remove the ceiling rose cover, report back with how many cables are in the ceiling rose.

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If this light is the middle of the 3, then there should be maximum of 2 cables, depending on how it has been wired. Have a look. If there are only 2 cables, simply crimp them together, insulate, and shove them in the roof space. Use a proper ratchet crimper, not the "squeeze and hope" jobs.

However, at the other extreme, there may be up to 5 cables. icon_confused.gif
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If there are only 2 cables, simply crimp them together, insulate, and shove them in the roof space. Use a proper ratchet crimper, not the "squeeze and hope" jobs.


and dont turn the switch on either. or bang goes the lights.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:17 pm    Post Subject:
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andy wrote:
crafty1289 wrote:
If there are only 2 cables, simply crimp them together, insulate, and shove them in the roof space. Use a proper ratchet crimper, not the "squeeze and hope" jobs.


and dont turn the switch on either. or bang goes the lights.


Can you explain this strange comment?

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andy wrote:
crafty1289 wrote:
If there are only 2 cables, simply crimp them together, insulate, and shove them in the roof space. Use a proper ratchet crimper, not the "squeeze and hope" jobs.


and dont turn the switch on either. or bang goes the lights.


Can you explain this strange comment?


if there are only 2 cables then 1 will be the switch?
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