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Lead piping to copper piping

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DaveyB

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:25 pm Reply with quote

I have some old Lead piping in my house and don\\\'t want to rip it all out. I need to extend and existing lead pipe to a copper pipe. Does anyone know how I should do this, i.e. what joining materials I should use. Thanks in advance ..
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murdock

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:57 pm Reply with quote

Go to a plumbing merchants and ask for a leadlock, Its a special compression fitting to join lead to copper but you will need to know the size of the lead pipe. This is sometimes hard to tell until you cut the pipe so buy a couple of different size leadlocks if your not certain You can always take back what you don't use and get a refund.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:05 am Reply with quote

or if your'e a real plumber like me" taft it. I know I know its illegal boys.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:04 pm Reply with quote

oldskool_plumbski wrote:
or if your'e a real plumber like me" taft it. I know I know its illegal boys.
Nah.do a proper wiped joint and cover it with brown paper tied with string icon_wink.gif I`ll lend you my Smudge, Oldi.and shavehook
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:28 pm Reply with quote

icon_wink.gif

might need one of these as well
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:58 pm Reply with quote

icon_lol.gif or even 4 of them icon_wink.gif and Tallow. and turnpin, and pipeclamp, kerosene blowlamp. stick of code D solder. rasp. canvas bag, bike.bowler hat. apron. Tie. FFS givus the address, I`ll do it meself icon_cool.gif
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Crystal

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:51 pm Reply with quote

I have a few questions.

What is an "oldi" ?
Why the picture of a Platypus ?
(I'm not suprised it's illegal)

Why are you answering a post from 2005 ?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:19 pm Reply with quote

Quote:
Why the picture of a Platypus ?


it came up as a "mole " on a search icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

moleskin wiping cloth
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:20 pm Reply with quote

I know its an old post but couldn't resist.
We used to be advised by water board (only 20 years ago, when lead was known to be bad) that to perform water repairs we had to go from lead to brass to copper, wiping the lead to brass joint & then capillary copper. so as not to cause corrosion.

Leadlocks were introduced so as to prevent adding lead to the system, by the previous use ( wiping a lead joint) any replacement pipework could not contain lead.

Gas regs seem to differ. They don't seem to pick up that repairs to lead gas pipes really should not go directly to copper, Even when teeing off

oxidation (ks-dshn)
n.
1. The combination of a substance with oxygen.
2. A reaction in which the atoms in an element lose electrons and the valence of the element is correspondingly increased.

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should never connect lead directly to copper.
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Crystal

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:53 pm Reply with quote

Thanks for that ItsOverFlo v. interesting. I have seen wiped lead joins being done but have never tried it myself. I may ask someone to show me, it's not so useful these days, but it seems a pity to see a skill ( or is it an art) lost.

Kevplumb, was only kidding about the mole, job cancelled at last minute and time to kill ( insert ashamed smiley).

Now what exactly is it that you do you do to this poor animal ?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:20 pm Reply with quote

Crystal wrote:
Thanks for that ItsOverFlo v. interesting. I have seen wiped lead joins being done but have never tried it myself. I may ask someone to show me, it's not so useful these days, but it seems a pity to see a skill ( or is it an art) lost.

Kevplumb, was only kidding about the mole, job cancelled at last minute and time to kill ( insert ashamed smiley).

Now what exactly is it that you do you do to this poor animal ?
icon_lol.gif It`s not real mole skin it`s Fuscian?.a heavy woven cloth..it`s an art, believe me.Oldski is an abbreviation for old skool plumberski
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gilln1

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:39 pm Reply with quote

Yes I did it.....whacking some tiles of a wall (terrible job of tiling done by the previous house owners I may add which meant I had to use a chisel), and I have pierced a hole in the gas pipe.

Now my problem......lead pipes

Some of the people I have spoken to so far are all kindly offering to rip out my entire pipe work because it is 'illegal' to repair it, and charge me various amounts of money.

Obvioulsy I expect to pay someone to do something, but is there a way to LEGALLY fix a dented lead pipe (about 4 inches long) without ripping up floor boards, and replacing almost everything. Oh I have a back boiler too, which is apparently a potential problem too. One kind chap also mentioned that if it is really bad my radiators and full monty may have to be replaced.

I would be VERY greatful for some sound advice, oh and PLEASE don't call me a pillock for piercing the pipe.....the Mrs has constantly reminded me.

Cheers.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:43 pm Reply with quote

yes it can be repaired but ideally it should be taken out and replaced icon_wink.gif
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gilln1

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:50 pm Reply with quote

I'll be honest kevplumb I wasn't even convinced anyone would read this let alone reply so fast.

Thanks for the input, can I bother you for a bit more advice mate?

How?

I'm not an aggresive guy but it would be nice to mention to the next guy thats offers to charge me enough for a round the world QE2 cruise, how he could do it.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:55 pm Reply with quote

two cup joints yer need an "old school" plumber marra

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