SOIL STACK

TRACY LOVE · 22 Feb 2006

Hi there I\\\'m after moving my toilet from the corner of the back wall to the same corner but on the right hand wall. It will be just as close, but the hole in the soil pipe is coming out from the left side and I would need it to come from the front or I will have too many bends.
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wc -O ¦
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O = soil pipe with current opening for wc waste.
Current toilet is facing forward with straight run right into soil pipe.
New toilet will be against right hand wall facing left in to the room.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP !!!!!
I think the guys down the local plumbing shop will start to put a close sign on the door when they see me coming.
Any help much appreciated !

chrishutt · 22 Feb 2006

If the soil stack is plastic you should be able to twist the branch fitting around through 180 degrees (or whatever). Might be best to get someone to help. First you need something to lubricate the push fit joints at the top and bottom of the branch - WD40 might be best, or silicone spray.

Insert a length of pipe into the side socket to act as a lever. Then start twisting this a little from side to side, being careful not to twist the pipes above and below that might have branch connections to them. Eventually the push fit joints should free-up and you should be able to completely rotate the branch.

TRACY LOVE · 23 Feb 2006

Hi Thanks for the reply much appreciated Ill give it a go !

TRACY LOVE · 28 Feb 2006

Hi

My pipe seems to be really stiff just wondering if they use solvent weld on waste pipes and if so is there anything that you can do to free it up ?

Thanks Tracy

Bahco · 28 Feb 2006

Can you not just extend the soil pipe internaly with elbows and pipe and leave external as it is.?

Could always box in later!

Softus · 28 Feb 2006

TRACY LOVE said:
My pipe seems to be really stiff just wondering if they use solvent weld on waste pipes and if so is there anything that you can do to free it up ?

Desperately attempting to avoid comments about stiff pipes, I would say that generally soil stacks are not solvent welded at the bottom. You can tell because a ring seal socket will have a larger rim where the ring seal sits, whereas solvent welded are uniform diameter.

However, the rubber seals are quite grippy, so you'll struggle to turn the pipe unless you have a tool (or lots of people) to help you.

TRACY LOVE · 28 Feb 2006

Hi

Im not sure, My soil pipe runs down the inside of the house so I can get to it easily but I think because I am moving the wall the toilet is on it will have too many bends in the pipe. At the moment it runs from the the left of the soil pipe and I will need it to run from the front.
So it will need to be 90degrees? If that makes sense!

Thanks Tracy

TRACY LOVE · 28 Feb 2006

Hi Softus

I see what you mean it dose have a larger rim on it Ill try a bit more force. What sort of tool would you need to help

? is it a specialist one?

Thank you Tracy

Nige F · 28 Feb 2006

Hi, it all depends on what was used to lubricate the rubber joints when it was assembled......Silicone greaseOK.and it`ll move after 20 years did one @ a mates and guess who installed it 20 years before

BUT if it`s been done with Fairy liquid......or Who knows what,it might as well be solvent welded

Use force.carefully.

Softus · 28 Feb 2006

TRACY LOVE said:
Hi Softus

I see what you mean it dose have a larger rim on it Ill try a bit more force. What sort of tool would you need to help ? is it a specialist one?

Thank you Tracy

Commonly known as a "Boa Grip" tool, it looks like this:

TRACY LOVE · 6 Mar 2006

Nige F said:
Hi, it all depends on what was used to lubricate the rubber joints when it was assembled......Silicone greaseOK.and it`ll move after 20 years did one @ a mates and guess who installed it 20 years before BUT if it`s been done with Fairy liquid......or Who knows what,it might as well be solvent welded Use force.carefully.

Hi thanks for your help, Is there anything I can do to move it or would you have to get it cut?

Thanks Tracy

Nige F · 6 Mar 2006

It does depend on the make/type...sometimes on the sockets there is a ring that holds the rubber seal in place.It can be pulled off upwards and the rubber picked out..Others have a captive ring in a groove in the pipe and cant be got at.However there are rubber joiners that have 2 large jubilee clips to tighten onto the cut pipe....most likely to be in a drainage center/ builders merchants.should get advise there ok.

Softus · 6 Mar 2006

Nige F said:
...there are rubber joiners that have 2 large jubilee clips to tighten onto the cut pipe....

Like this Fernco fitting

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