New side garage door - minimum distance from corner?

Psycho_Hamster · 27 Jul 2006

Hi,

Having a side door put into a detached garage for access from the garden. Are there any limits as to how close to the rear corner of the garage you can have the door in case of compromising structural integrity?

Thanks,
PH

Static · 27 Jul 2006

665mm measured from external face of corner

Psycho_Hamster · 27 Jul 2006

Static,

Thanks for the quick reply - I am taking that as external corner to edge of door frame?

PH

Static · 27 Jul 2006

Yep, that can be reduced if more info about the garage is given, ie size, pier locations, wall thickness etc etc etc.. but cant go wrong with 665mm

Psycho_Hamster · 27 Jul 2006

Size is a double garage, detached - single skinned so just the one brick thick. Don't know where the piers are from memory so I'll take a look later - however, the door looks like it is being cut in about 1.5 to 2 bricks in from the corner of the garage - hence my concern!

PH

Static · 27 Jul 2006

Well if the garage isnt larger than 36m^2, there are at least 2no piers each wall elevation, walls are not lightweight block, no roof access(ie storage) and walls only taking wind lateral loading then you can get away with 390mm minimum. Unless there is a corner pier next to the door

Psycho_Hamster · 27 Jul 2006

OK.

have now managed to assess the situation and the edge of the door frame is literally on the mortar join of the first brick in!! Standard house bricks are 200mm or thereabouts? What are the consequences of having this small a gap?

Any idea what formal rules these are and where can I find a copy to hit someone with?

Thanks,
PH

Static · 27 Jul 2006

Page 31, diagram 18 of Building Regulations Part A 2004 edition

Psycho_Hamster · 27 Jul 2006

Thanks Static - very helpful.

I also note that the hinges of the door are attached on the side of the 200mm of bricks (ie/ not the main wall) and the door opens outwards. Looks like I will be getting them to move the door and rebrick up the opening. I just don't understand how when they build new houses that they don't know all this stuff. Oh, hang on - what that a flash of logic that was sadly misplaced?

PH

Psycho_Hamster · 28 Jul 2006

Update:

Builder is now proposing that although the door is too close to the corner that they put in a corner pier, a pier to the other side of the door and fasten them to the wall with a wall starter pack (Firfix).

Now, I don't know why, but I feel a bit concerned on this. From my understanding it is going to be a straight join up the wall and the bricks will not be cut into the wall - just relying on the firfix for securing it, the mortar and the mortar on the base of the pier (or pillar as I would call it!). The corner internally is literally half a brick between door frame and rear wall and so the pier would be level with the door frame edge. Should I be concerned or is this acceptable practice? It looks like they have Firfixed entire chimney stacks to the sides of houses round here (sseing them constructed) so I may be worrying over nothing.....

Any advice?

PH

Static · 28 Jul 2006

Putting a pier each side of the doorway is an option. I wouldnt use furfix (or any wall starter) for the corner pier, they should be rebuiding the corner. The pier on the other side of the door on the other hand can be done from a wall starter.

Psycho_Hamster · 28 Jul 2006

They seem to be set on the furfix route for the pier as this will meet building regs apparently. After all - it's good enough for the chimney stacks!! Just making sure I am not near them in the next big gales.....

PH

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