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ptarling

Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Essex, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:55 am |
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Hello,
If anyone can give me some advice - would appreciate it...
Thinking of buying an olive removing tool. As far as I can see there is a cheaper model that will remove both 15/22mm olives (the tool screws on to the existing compression locking nut and you pull the olive off) or there is a more expensive tool that splits the olive (but 2 seperate tools required to do both 15 & 22mm).
Will the cheaper one suffice or are they unreliable..???
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JPC

Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1568 Location: Leicester, United Kingdom Thanked: 19 times
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:12 pm |
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i bought a 15mm mor expensive type.
it lasted about a month. the cutting teeth are now blunt and it compresses the olive (and pipe) and in so doing causes more work !
i now have gone back to me hack saw |
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ChrisR

Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 23083 Location: London, United Kingdom Thanked: 936 times
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:51 am |
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I've got them (all!).
The screwy one which does both sizes (unless the threads's the older finer prestex type) is the better bet.
Either that or cut yourself a set of very short lengths of copper pipe, and put them in a compression fitting, starting with the shortest, and do the nut up. As you do so it'll slide the olive along the pipe. When tight, undo the fitting and put a longer bit of pipe in, and repeat. See? |
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croydoncorgi

Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 4024 Location: London, United Kingdom Thanked: 331 times
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:13 am |
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The splitting-type tool does for me, for 15mm. Larger sizes = less frequently needed and easier to work on = carry on using hacksaw.
The other problem is the quality of the plumbing BEFORE you came on the scene! If a compression joint has been over-tightened so that the olive has dug in and 'necked' the tube, there's no point removing it in most cases! You won't get a leaktight joint on the tube a second time anyway. |
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ChrisR

Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 23083 Location: London, United Kingdom Thanked: 936 times
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:44 am |
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The plug centre of the screw-on type, goes some way to reshaping the pipe.
SOmeone ought to make a tap-in bar of the right size to do the job. 13.6mm! |
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ptarling

Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Essex, United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:39 am |
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| ChrisR wrote: | I've got them (all!).
The screwy one which does both sizes (unless the threads's the older finer prestex type) is the better bet.
Either that or cut yourself a set of very short lengths of copper pipe, and put them in a compression fitting, starting with the shortest, and do the nut up. As you do so it'll slide the olive along the pipe. When tight, undo the fitting and put a longer bit of pipe in, and repeat. See? |
This sounds like a good plan!!!! Thanks for advice |
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ptarling

Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Essex, United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:42 am |
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| JPC wrote: | i bought a 15mm mor expensive type.
it lasted about a month. the cutting teeth are now blunt and it compresses the olive (and pipe) and in so doing causes more work !
i now have gone back to me hack saw |
Thanks for advice!! |
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ben28

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:22 pm |
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I have monument 15mm/22mm removal tool, it is very usefull and avoids the problem of cutting the pipe and the olive when using a hacksaw. Occasionaly the effort required to turn the handle can be difficult in tight spaces. On the whole its a usefull bit of kit though. |
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nigelad

Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 60 Location: London, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:23 pm |
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Didn't know you get tools to deal with olives until I saw this thread!
I replaced 9 rad valves with TRVs recently, and removing the old olives was the hardest part of the job!
I was too scared of damaging the pipes with a hacksaw, so wore them down with a file until I could rip them open and off with an old jeweller's screwdriver  |
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scatmanjohn

Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 3082 Location: Brazil Thanked: 100 times
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Blasphemous

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 6645 Location: United Kingdom Thanked: 15 times
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:30 pm |
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| nigelad wrote: | Didn't know you get tools to deal with olives until I saw this thread!
I replaced 9 rad valves with TRVs recently, and removing the old olives was the hardest part of the job!
I was too scared of damaging the pipes with a hacksaw, so wore them down with a file until I could rip them open and off with an old jeweller's screwdriver  |
Crikey!!! The award for perseverance goes to.... YOU! |
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micktheframer

Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 34 Location: Birmingham, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:36 pm |
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I'm with scatmanjohn on this one.... |
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namsag

Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 9913 Location: United Kingdom Thanked: 319 times
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:26 pm |
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Never used or saw one, to be honest never saw the need... Is it so much better and quicker than the 30 seconds it takes to cut with a junior hacksaw and an remove with an old electricians screwdriver. Or just wallop the nut an olive off with pair of grips. |
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dan the man

Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 173 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:33 pm |
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| scatmanjohn wrote: |
i use these |
yup i use these in 15 and 22.
otherwise a hacksaw is easy enough imo if u get technique right |
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pigeon1974

Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 10 Location: Anglesey, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:26 pm |
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I use both and the one scatman recommends is the best. And it helps strengthen the wrists.
There is a technique though -be careful and slow (that's what she said) or you can nip the copper pipe as well. |
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