Clicking Ideal Classic

corgiman · 31 Oct 2006

Right Lads I am stumped

This is a freebie job (aint they always) and me cousin was complaining that his ideal classic ff250 would ignite then switch off then back on over and over, it does this in a fraction of a second and just keeps clicking.

First of all I stripped down the boiler scrubbed the heat exchanger and check the flue was clear (it was)

it was fine for a bit then I got the call again, look at the board I noticed that the relay on the right (sorry I forget which number) was making the breaking, I called Ideal

and was assured it were the AFS and they advised I change the fan too,(I know tony I have started to throw bits at it in the hope of getting the right one shamefull aint i?)

It was again fine for a bit then he was back on again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so I changed the bloody board, this was a week ago and I get the call yet again.

Any of you top boyos got any suggestions cos I give up, I would pay for ideal to come out but they refused to attend boilers over five years old so I am bloody stuck with it.

You can guess I am in dire straits cos I am willing to accept off the pee taking this here post will no doubt bring

take the mickey but help me

corgiman · 31 Oct 2006

Tony, Dad Chrisr I need you bad on this one,

a beaten up corgiman

Gas2Air · 31 Oct 2006

I assume by AFS you mean the APS? I have known the inner flue to come away or even rot over time, if Ideal have pointed to the APS then i would check the inner flue thoroughly. Not much else to go wrong really seeing that you have changed most things. I would also check the wiring harness and or electrode and lead.

corgiman · 31 Oct 2006

Cheers mate

but I have stripped out the flue and cannae see a smidge of damage on it???/

and yes I am like the worse BG engineer as I am now throwing parts at the bloody thing

sime10 · 31 Oct 2006

I had to change a gas valve on one last week with similar problems

Gas2Air · 31 Oct 2006

My advice would be to check outside and that the inner flue is fully connected to the outer flue and that all screws are fixed in. Is it a rear or horizontal flue exit from the fan?

corgiman · 31 Oct 2006

sime10 said:
I had to change a gas valve on one last week with similar problems

could it be that that is knocking the relay out or is it the other way round?

corgiman · 31 Oct 2006

Gas2Air said:
My advice would be to check outside and that the inner flue is fully connected to the outer flue and that all screws are fixed in. Is it a rear or horizontal flue exit from the fan?

from the side horizantal

Gas2Air · 31 Oct 2006

Only ever came across the Kingfisher with pcb/gas valve problems. I assume you have checked the inlet gas pressure on the valve

corgiman · 31 Oct 2006

yip second thing i Checked, a drop of 1/2 mbr so thats luvverly goddamit

Gas2Air · 31 Oct 2006

When would you say the fault occurs more often? You say you left it ok for a week, seems to point to a dodgy gas valve when hot/cold? Difficult and i know how you feel, been there, faulty APS on many boilers, fitted new, only to find new APS faulty, throws you in a another direction completely after an hour of confusion!

corgiman · 31 Oct 2006

Gas2Air said:
When would you say the fault occurs more often? You say you left it ok for a week, seems to point to a dodgy gas valve when hot/cold? Difficult and i know how you feel, been there, faulty APS on many boilers, fitted new, only to find new APS faulty, throws you in a another direction completely after an hour of confusion!

true I will change the APS on the morrow

it seems to happen cold or hot, which helps

sime10 · 31 Oct 2006

Hope the APS change works but I still think its the Gas valve, keep us informed.

corgiman · 31 Oct 2006

bugggger it I will fit a new gas valve tomorrow dammit

I feel like picking up a whole new bleeeedin boiler and whacking on the wall

Thanks chaps I really appreciate the help

Gas2Air · 31 Oct 2006

Definately sounds like an air flow problem over a gas valve but hey it's a hard job. Check your basics mate, polarity, case seal, flue blanking seals and the inner flue when you pop the APS in. Hope you get on ok.

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