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kevplumb · 29 Dec 2006

So, if I diy my boiler install and follow the MI,s to the letter and the boiler turns out to be faulty ,then the manufacturer will have to fix the fault ,replace the boiler or give me a refund and no need for the dog.
Or will the dog start barking ??.

if the MI'S state it must be fitted by an rgi no
however if it states a "competent person" and you can prove competency
you have ****ed it but proving it is a grey area

Bigburn · 30 Dec 2006

Softus wrote

False. The need to be fitted by an RGI is both a requirement of the Building Regulations and an express term of the contract of sale.

Not, if its a diy install.

Bigburn · 30 Dec 2006

kevplum wrote

if the MI'S state it must be fitted by an rgi no

Then I will just have to purchase one that doesnt stipulate the need for an rgi.

Bigburn · 30 Dec 2006

kevplum wrote

and you can prove competency
you have p****d it but proving it is a grey area

Yeah but if their is a disagreement between say a diyer who followed the MI,s to the letter during the installation and a component becomes faulty then the manufacturer have no way of proving the diyer is not competent.

Softus · 30 Dec 2006

Bigburn said:
The exact amount of time depends on the product.

Where does the legislation make a distinction between products?

Softus · 30 Dec 2006

Bigburn said:
Softus wrote

False. The need to be fitted by an RGI is both a requirement of the Building Regulations and an express term of the contract of sale.

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Not, if its a diy install.

I stand corrected. I mixed up several facts into one, and I apologise.

I should have written:

1. The need to notify the LABC is a requirement of the Building Regulations.
2. The need to be commissioned by a competent person is an express term of the contract of sale.
3. The need to be installed by a competent person is a requirement of the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations.

Bigburn · 30 Dec 2006

I found some good information here -

http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdot...ESOURCES&r.i=1073792598&r.l2=1074400662&r.s=e

Softus · 30 Dec 2006

Bigburn said:
I found some good information here -

http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdot...&r.i=1073792598&r.l2=1074400662&r.s=e[/QUOTE]
Does it tell you why you think that the legislation makes a distinction between products?

Bigburn · 30 Dec 2006

Softus wrote

Does it tell you why you think that the legislation makes a distinction between products?

I dont think that.
That info is written in the link I provided though it doesnt give precise details on any statutory legislation regarding distinction of products that I am aware off.

Water Systems · 30 Dec 2006

kevplumb said:
The guarantee CANNOT overide the law - such as they will not honour a guarantee if no Gorgi badged fitter fitted it. The laws says no such thing,

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try testing it in a court of law then the MI's overrule the regs mister

The law is the law - END. Boy some people here are so dim.

Softus · 30 Dec 2006

Bigburn said:
All customers have up to six years to claim compensation (in Scotland, five years from discovery of the problem).
The exact amount of time depends on the product.

Softus said:
Where does the legislation make a distinction between products?

Bigburn said:
That info is written in the link I provided though it doesnt give precise details on any statutory legislation regarding distinction of products that I am aware off.

So - would it be more accurate, and less misleading, to say that the exact amount of time doesn't depend on the product?

Water Systems · 30 Dec 2006

Bigburn said:
kevplum wrote

if the MI'S state it must be fitted by an rgi no

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Then I will just have to purchase one that doesnt stipulate the need for an rgi.

Tripe. The law is the law. A competent DIYer doesn't need Corgi and the maker has to honour the guarantee - END

So a search on my name as I gave the law on it.

Basically you have to be competent to fit gas appliances. If you do it for money you need to be Corgi registered. It is THAT SIMPLE. All the loonies here constantly attempt to say the law is wrong and go, on, and on, and on. Boy are they are dumb! You couldn't make it up man.

Softus · 30 Dec 2006

Water Systems said:
Boy some people here are so dim.

Water Systems · 30 Dec 2006

Bigburn said:
kevplum wrote

and you can prove competency
you have p****d it but proving it is a grey area

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Yeah but if their is a disagreement between say a diyer who followed the MI,s to the letter during the installation and a component becomes faulty then the manufacturer have no way of proving the diyer is not competent.

The DIYer must be competent as it is fitted properly.

kevplumb · 30 Dec 2006

Water Systems said:
kevplumb said:

The guarantee CANNOT overide the law - such as they will not honour a guarantee if no Gorgi badged fitter fitted it. The laws says no such thing,

Click to expand...

try testing it in a court of law then the MI's overrule the regs mister

Click to expand...

The law is the law - END. Boy some people here are so dim.

as i have said before salesman go peddle your crap on another forum

you aint competent you are just a **** stirrer

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