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DIYerHELP

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Wiltshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 5 times
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:59 am |
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Dear All,
We are planning to replace an existing flat roof over the garage with a pitched roof inline with the existing roof with two velux windows. We have a chalet style house the garage is joined to the house and measures 7m x 2.8m.
The space within the new pitched roof over the garage would be used as an en-suite bathroom.
Would we require planning permission as the existing roofline would be maintained and the volume increase would be height only?
Many thanks for all those that can help me on this matter. |
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Richard C

Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 10598 Location: United Kingdom Thanked: 982 times
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:35 am |
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Yes you will almost certainly require PP & BC will want to get involved as well. I had the exact same scenario on an old flat roof extension at the back of my house except we weren’t using the roof space as another room; I just don’t like flat roofs!
You will need to consider the additional weight of the pitch roof & tiles when building/buying the roof trusses & you will need to ensure the insulation of the new room complies with current standards. |
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DIYerHELP

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Wiltshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 5 times
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:37 pm |
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Thanks Richard C for you detailed response. I knew BC would be involved but though we could get away without full PP! |
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^woody^

Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 12203 Location: Birmingham, United Kingdom Thanked: 1116 times
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:48 pm |
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You could most likely do this under permitted development, and as such will not need a formal planning application.
But check with your local planning office first just to confirm. |
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rangersman

Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:15 am |
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| Richard C wrote: | Yes you will almost certainly require PP & BC will want to get involved as well. I had the exact same scenario on an old flat roof extension at the back of my house except we weren’t using the roof space as another room; I just don’t like flat roofs!
You will need to consider the additional weight of the pitch roof & tiles when building/buying the roof trusses & you will need to ensure the insulation of the new room complies with current standards. |
Given the description by the OP I would suspect that planning would not necessarily be needed, provided the plane of the roof was constructed no nearer any public highway, or did not extend above the ridge line.
However, the easiest way is to call the Planner in your area and ask!! |
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masona

Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 12354 Location: Essex, United Kingdom Thanked: 98 times
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:14 am |
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Normally it's just building regs |
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DIYerHELP

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Wiltshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 5 times
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:27 pm |
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Thanks guys for this great help. I'll keep you posted on the outcome. |
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NS215

Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 428 Location: Cheshire, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:40 pm |
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i thought you needed PP for any change of appearance |
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^woody^

Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 12203 Location: Birmingham, United Kingdom Thanked: 1116 times
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:06 pm |
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No, lots of things are exempt, and other things can be done under permitted development. |
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ColJack

Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 11770 Location: West Midlands, United Kingdom Thanked: 408 times
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:31 pm |
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sorry to hijack, but it is a related question..
would i need planning permission to "square off" a roof?
what i mean is, i have a flat with a 3 sided roof ( see picture ) and would like to develop the loft space at some point, making the roof only 2 sided for added space.. ( my flat is top 3 windows on the right side.. want to make into gable end with window perhaps.. )
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^woody^

Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 12203 Location: Birmingham, United Kingdom Thanked: 1116 times
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:45 am |
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Yes you would need permission, and from a planning/design perspective your proposal would unbalance the terrace, and so you would have a job getting permission |
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rangersman

Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:28 am |
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| ^woody^ wrote: | | Yes you would need permission, and from a planning/design perspective your proposal would unbalance the terrace, and so you would have a job getting permission |
I would suggest that there is a case for not needing PP for this work as the roof projects no closer to the highway, or extends above the exisitng ridge. This guy's didn't:
http://www.internode.co.uk/loft/index.htm
Are you the freeholder though? That could stuff up the plans maybe!
As always though - go in and ask the LPO! |
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^woody^

Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 12203 Location: Birmingham, United Kingdom Thanked: 1116 times
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:03 am |
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I don't know of any of these locally, where the various councils have accepted these under permitted development.
A very recent case in Sandwell, made headlines where a rear dormer was built without permission (lower than ridge, no near to highway etc), and yet it has been determined to have required permission - something which was refused on application and on appeal, and now it is subject to an enforcement order and has to be removed.
I would suggest a written reply from the council confirming that no PP is required, or a Certificate of Lawful Development application would be the best course of action. |
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DIYerHELP

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 271 Location: Wiltshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 5 times
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:29 pm |
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Good advice Woody cheers! |
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