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martint

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 3 Location: London, United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:16 pm |
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Apologies if this is covered elsewhere - I would have certainly expected it to be but can't quite find a topic that covers this specific question.
Think I may have just screwed up an oven purchase. Have just replaced a gas hob/oven with a gas hob and electric single oven, intending to get myself an oven that I could plug into the ring main via a normal 13a plug. Having taken delivery of my AEG B1180-4 oven I find that there's nothing in the manual that directly indicates wattage (and cant find anything on the web (I stupidly believed the reassurance that it plugged straight in). Sadly I suspect that I may be looking at a new circuit after all.
It dooesn't have a plug or cable attached and the manual states it needs a 2.5mm2 cable and a 15-20amp fuse, which seems to imply that a conventional 13amp socket won't be up to it.
I'd be grateful if anyone could shed any further light on this - I find myself wondering whether a switched spur from the ring would do the job; but (its a small house and doesn't have a separate ring in the kitchen) have a nasty feeling that we are looking at a dedicated radial (and cooker switch/control) from the consumer unit - which I really didn't want to have to get into.
And guess that I need heat resisting cable in any case? Any ideas gratefully received..... |
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securespark

Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 22519 Location: Cheshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 306 times
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:17 pm |
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We NEED to know the load. |
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davy_owen_88

Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 1680 Location: West Glamorgan, United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:53 pm |
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Check on the oven door, or at the back of the appliance. There is usually a note stating the load. |
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JohnD

Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 34349 Location: Hampshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 1087 times
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:59 pm |
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martint

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 3 Location: London, United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:03 pm |
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Cheers, guys - I was waiting on written confirmation from AEG following Securespark's comment.
I phoned AEG and still awaiting written confirmation, but the story so far is that they say it's a 3kw unit, and can be connected via a 13amp socket.
Have asked for confirmation as my manual seems to imply the opposite, and they have promised to email me a pdf of the manual that they say has now been updated and includes stuff that mine version doesn't, which confirms this.
However, still not rec'd. Assuming that it is 3kw - does that OK for the ring? |
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JohnD

Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 34349 Location: Hampshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 1087 times
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:09 pm |
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Yes.
A 13A fused plug can accomdate 3kW.
Appliances are usually designed to suit this (most single ovens in the UK market run about 10A).
Oven elements do not run a continuous load, as they cycle on and off by the thermostat once they reach temperature. Mine is generally up to temp with 10 minutes of switch-on.
Some unfortunate people live in countries without our wonderful ring-main and fused plug system, and will often need a separate circuit even for a single oven. |
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martint

Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 3 Location: London, United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:29 pm |
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Thanks all - I'm feeling a bit silly as it looks as if I could have sorted this out with a call to AEG in the first place. What I still don't get though, is why in these circumstances the manual I have states that it needs a 15-20amp fuse? Unless it was just a "misprinted" manual that's now been superceded.
Still waiting for the pdf from AEG though, so not counting chickens just yet...
And as it's got no cable on it - will I need to source a heat resistant cable for the plug, or is that only an issue with highly rated applicances that throw more waste heat out of the back (energy efficiency anyone...)? |
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Steve

Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 15749 Location: Yorkshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 211 times
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:36 pm |
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| martint wrote: | Thanks all - I'm feeling a bit silly as it looks as if I could have sorted this out with a call to AEG in the first place. What I still don't get though, is why in these circumstances the manual I have states that it needs a 15-20amp fuse? Unless it was just a "misprinted" manual that's now been superceded.
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It states this because in European countries, they dont use our wonderful 32 amp ring main system with 13 amp plugs. many countries use 16 amp radials. To plug a long-use 13 amp appliance into a 16 amp circuit in a kitchen would not be a clever thing to do, so they recommend a new radial from the distribution board, which would be 16 or 20 amps. |
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JohnD

Joined: 15 Nov 2005 Posts: 34349 Location: Hampshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 1087 times
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:38 pm |
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| Crafty wrote: | | wonderful ... |
| JohnD wrote: | | Some unfortunate people live in countries without our wonderful ring-main and fused plug system |
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