logical step for Labour is to reverse Brexit

[motorbiking]

Sorry I forgot I was replying to you and you prefer to deal in facts, Notchy facts.

Why are you so obsessed with a figure that will always change.

What's needed is a direction change in wages. Not a specific figure.

People working full time should be paid enough to live on. It will mean those at the top have to sacrifice a bit of their pay. And that's what hurts you.

The economy needs people spending. To do that they need money to spend.

You support paying benefits as long as those at the top can get richer. That only helps a few.

Keep paying more and more taxes, because as the wage gap increases more and more will need those taxes in benefits.

Absolutely no sympathy with you being taxed more and more.

So people with high value skills will need to earn less than they are worth, so that people with low value skills can earn more than they are worth.

Yet you are against people on low pay being given benefits which are paid for by those who pay the highest taxes.

So it boils down to you thinking that if those who earn more than you pay more, so that those who earn less do not need “subsidies”, which you think you pay towards.

Politics of envy.

 

[Odds]

Research by the Centre for European Reform suggests the UK economy is 2.5% smaller than it would have been if Remain had won the referendum. Public finances fell by £26 billion a year. This amounts to £500 million a week and is growing. Living standards for all UK families are set to fall by 2030, with those on the lowest incomes declining twice as fast as middle and high earners.

 

[Notch7]

So people with high value skills will need to earn less than they are worth, so that people with low value skills can earn more than they are worth.

Yet you are against people on low pay being given benefits which are paid for by those who pay the highest taxes.

So it boils down to you thinking that if those who earn more than you pay more, so that those who earn less do not need “subsidies”, which you think you pay towards.

Politics of envy.

WRONG

from 2010 to 2025 the wages of ordinary citizens have stagnated
from 2010 to 2025 the wealth of the rich has grown massively

the wealthy are sucking money out of the economy and turning it into assets



thats the problem

Motorbiking doesnt want to discuss that

 

[Notch7]

thats because various studies show slightly differing figures

it doesnt make it untrue

poor Filly always looking for the false argument

 

[Odds]

the public thinks Brexit a calamity, by 56% to 31%.

None of the rwr are prepared to admit it, even to themselves.

 

[Notch7]

You’re starting with the assumption that standard of living indexes are even a valid way to compare.

Motorbiking doesnt want to address the fact the UK has poor living standards and high wealth inequality

so he tries to deflect by criticising the metrics used, but cant say why

 

[Notch7]

Everything work wise has a monetry value or you would have plumbers earning what us sparks earn and we couldnt have that

the earn more

 

[catlad]

coping with Covid. Would have been an utter disaster

If Covid was this killer disease it was made out to be, why are new houses being built on every spare piece of land available in Lancashire? Surely there should be thousands of empty properties!

 

[blup]

Politics of envy.

Free market forces don’t work on the basis of rewarding someone‘s skill sets. The politics of power do that - economic power.

 

[Notch7]

Bit obvious I would have thought

why?

why do you think a constantly increasing disparity between ordinary citizens and the most wealthy is a good thing?
why do you think the wealthy constantly increasing their assets at the expense of a healthy economy is a good thing?

I thought you were a patriot person that cared about British citizens

 

[motorbiking]

the wealthy are sucking money out of the economy and turning it into assets

Politics of envy.

 

[motorbiking]

Free market forces don’t work on the basis of rewarding someone‘s skill sets.

yes they do.

You command more salary, if two things are true:
1) Your skills are valuable to a business: More benefit than cost, can't run your business without them, etc.
2) There is nobody with these skills who is available for the same or less and no way of getting the result in a different way.

 

[motorbiking]

the public thinks Brexit a calamity, by 56% to 31%.

None of the rwr are prepared to admit it, even to themselves.

Brexit was not a left or right issue, don't you remember all the lefties who campaigned for leave?

 

[Odds]

Grim new research from the National Bureau of Economic Research puts the loss at 6-8% of GDP cumulated so far up to this year, £240bn in wealth and £90bn in tax revenue every year.

 

[motorbiking]

Research by the Centre for European Reform suggests the UK economy is 2.5% smaller than it would have been if Remain had won the referendum. Public finances fell by £26 billion a year. This amounts to £500 million a week and is growing. Living standards for all UK families are set to fall by 2030, with those on the lowest incomes declining twice as fast as middle and high earners.

Grim new research from the National Bureau of Economic Research puts the loss at 6-8% of GDP cumulated so far up to this year, £240bn in wealth and £90bn in tax revenue every year.

was this research done at a similar time?