100 watt bulbs to be banned in September

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Whilst the heat from a tungsten bulb does make a contribution to space heating. Any arguement based upon that waste heat misses the point that using electricity directly for space heating is a very poor use of probably our best energy source.

I am always suspcious of anyone who claims that externally vented tumble dryers are a lot more efficient that condensing dryers. The condensing dryer will have a higher consumption, but if used wisely will return much of its heat to the home where it may suplement existing heating. Still the best approach is to not use a tumble dryer unless absolutely necessary. Who remembers removing crispy clothing that has been dried (a little) outside during the winter?
 
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swbjackson said:
I'm waiting for decent led lamps to go mainstream. You'll be looking at something like 10w equivalent of a 100w light bulb then.
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So am I swb, They are streets ahead of other low energy. I have several 18led in use and they are more than adequate for general bedroom use and fine for reading if directly above. And they use 2 watts each.
 
150W bulbs were meant to be banned 1 year ago. So I stocked up at the time.

With lower wattage ones following on.

Glad to say they are not taking action against sellers for a while
 
I would assume 2scoops0406 all the heat goes to the room so reducing the heating bill.
But not so easy as radiated heat rather than convected heat so although it may keep people nice and cosy it may not trigger the thermostat although of course you could manually compensate and turn the heat down when using tungsten bulbs?
 
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I take it no one has seen the 'new' halogen 'light bulbs'?

Just because standard 'light bulbs' are being banned, it doesn't automatically mean you have to use CFLs.

It seems like a lot of fuss over nothing.

Oh, and I HATE CFLs.
 
david_uk said:
My problem with the alternatives to incansedcant is that the quality of light is not comparable. My wife hates the light from cfl's. Cfl's have been around for some years, but this issue hasn't been addressed - maybe it's not technically possible to do so. But until they are, they don't come in the house!
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My wife is the same, but I fooled her with some GE branded spiral CFLs. They start instantly and the quality of the light is comparable enough for her not to notice.
 
RF Lighting said:
I take it no one has seen the 'new' halogen 'light bulbs'?
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Seen them.

Awful. Ban will back me up.

Overpriced, and they are trying to con consumers. They see "energy saving" and assume the same savings as with CFLs. The average joe dont know the difference.
 
andy11 said:
Interesting newspaper article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bulbs-millions-clearing-shelves-supplies.html

It says that the EU will ban the sale of traditional 100w bulbs from September this year, but criminal charges for anyone still selling them won't happen until 2016.

Stock up now!

A 20w energy saving bulb in my house packed up after just 3 months of very low use. The box said it would last 10 years. The traditional 100w bulb it replaced had been in use 20+ years and hadn't failed. I am going to take the energy saver back if I can find the receipt.
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This is blatent profitering-opportunism by the retailers that are "proudly leading the way" here.

Yes there's the environmental side of it. But it's gifted the retailers a golden opportunity to stop selling low-margin high volume items and replace with high value items. Even if the margin is the same, the many-times higher price will yield a much bigger profit. And they get free advertising the media as well. Bonza.

Given past few years development, it seems more and more likely that LEDs will soon be even better, so by the EU dae of 2016 they'll be the thing to have. No wonder the retailers want to churn the base now so they can "phase out environmentally unfriendly CFLs" in a few years and flog LEDs to us instead.

It's just the same as the advertising-masquarading-as-news when DSG managed to get into the news last year for "phasing out old fashioned radios" in favour of DAB. By happy co-incidence (for them) it probably meant the cheapest unit went from £5 to £50.

One bright side (!) with this bulb business - it means we'll all be stocking up on honest ol' incandescents while we get "Gordan's Givaway" 15% VAT. [they aren't vat free are they?]
 
NoPoke said:
Whilst the heat from a tungsten bulb does make a contribution to space heating. Any arguement based upon that waste heat misses the point that using electricity directly for space heating is a very poor use of probably our best energy source.

I am always suspcious of anyone who claims that externally vented tumble dryers are a lot more efficient that condensing dryers. The condensing dryer will have a higher consumption, but if used wisely will return much of its heat to the home where it may suplement existing heating. Still the best approach is to not use a tumble dryer unless absolutely necessary. Who remembers removing crispy clothing that has been dried (a little) outside during the winter?
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You seem to be contradicting yourself?
 
AndyPRK said:
150W bulbs were meant to be banned 1 year ago. So I stocked up at the time.

With lower wattage ones following on.

Glad to say they are not taking action against sellers for a while
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What about 200Watt lamps then?
 
Get some of these they'll blow a 100 w lamp away!!

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Ok so they are 350VA but at 200 lumens per watt they are impressively bright i've used them at christmas and they are the dogs..
 
tim west said:
Get some of these they'll blow a 100 w lamp away!!

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Ok so they are 350VA but at 200 lumens per watt they are impressively bright with colour temp adjustment.
I've used them at christmas and they are the dogs..
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Ok, but where does all the heat go? Anyhow, I think it is more to do with the fact that the world is starting to get a bit low on wolframite.
 
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