Do I test or not!!!

oharaf · 19 Feb 2009

Just need some clarification please chaps.

doing a litlle 'charity' work next thursday Morning

Collecting and delivering a cooker, I have been asked as I offered some voluntary time.

Any way crux of it is, I am connecting the cooker to the supply, to cover my arse should I test the circuit first, cont, IR, EFLI even if a PIR cert maybe available.

It is social housing, change of occupant, so there should be a PIR cert

(Yeah right!!!)

securespark · 19 Feb 2009

Do as you would do for any other job.

IR test the cooker itself, if it's been in storage it may well be damp.

You need to also check the circuit you're attaching the cooker to is healthy, so yes, an IR test on the circuit & a loop at the cooker terminals after attaching the appliance would be good.

Also, test the RCD if attached to that circuit & PEB's.

oharaf · 19 Feb 2009

Cheers Securespark, very helpful, I'm keen to do this right for them as it may well lead to some good bread and butter work which will be helpful in the current climate.

apparently all the appliances are serviced and tested before release, but will IR it anyway.

DESL · 19 Feb 2009

It is social housing, change of occupant, so there should be a PIR cert

(Yeah right!!!)

The one I do work for always request one on change of tenancy

If I were you I'd issue a MWC if you've done the tests may as well issue documentation to them.

Taylortwocities · 19 Feb 2009

so there should be a PIR cert

A PIR is a report on an existing installation, not an installation certificate!

As noted, above, its a Minor Works Certificate you need.

oharaf · 20 Feb 2009

Hi T2C

Yes I understand I should be leaving a MWC, for my work, but as the house has a change of occupant, (the person I am connecting up for is a new tenant) then surely there should be a PIR.

I know this is not a certificate, but it should detail the integrity or worthiness of the circuit to which the cooker is to be attached, should it not?

Either way, I will have to verify the circuit is fit for purpose and leave MWC, so that will be my arse covered.

Thanks for all your advice chaps, have a good weekend, I'm off to carry out some promotional activity (Handbilling; 3000 of the bloody things!!!!!!!!)

Any body fancy a walk around Guiseley today

stargazer · 20 Feb 2009

Oharaf your talk of promotional activity has got me thinking.
I wonder how many of the pro sparks who post on here get work from other posters.
If I didn't do it myself, there are several regular posters on here I wouldn't hesitate to employ having seen posted examples of their work and having got a "feel" for them, if you know what I mean

If they are picking up work from this site, good luck to them - they deserve some reciprocation for the time they spend answering questions on here, especially in this economic climate.
It's a shame admin won't allow email contacts in signatures etc, as the DIY Network is like wading through treacle.

Taylortwocities · 20 Feb 2009

There is no regulation that says that a PIR must be done on change of tenant. There is GUIDANCE from IEE/IET in Guidance Note 3 but that is all.
Here's a handy, informative link.. http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/electrical_safety.htm

oharaf · 20 Feb 2009

Sorry T2C, will go flagilate myself shortly!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the link

and the advice.

RF Lighting · 20 Feb 2009

oharaf said:
Thanks for all your advice chaps, have a good weekend, I'm off to carry out some promotional activity (Handbilling; 3000 of the b****y things!!!!!!!!)

Any body fancy a walk around Guiseley today

You missed my house

securespark · 20 Feb 2009

And my friend's....

oharaf · 20 Feb 2009

Which part of Guiseley Rob, have still to carryout full on assault, still 300 down only 2700 to go!!!!

Cheshire is Monday!!!

RF Lighting · 20 Feb 2009

Without giving too much away on a public forum, down the a65, turn left at the boarded up garage. Down there somewhere

Have you delivered to silverdale? I'm working in an empty house up there so I'll keep a look out

Don't forget, tranmere is where all the money lives

oharaf · 20 Feb 2009

Quite handy for the train you mean, oh and the local pub with Cheeky chirpy Alistair!!

Silverdale on the list funnily enough

TRANMERE, Oh yes that is a whole day, but will have to wear a shirt and tiw with by scuffed up DEWALT's.

Just so happens the father of an old uni mate lives up there, we used to go for lunch on Sundays and drink all his beer, wine and gin

Hawksworth Village will of course get a good billing!!

Hawksworth Estate how ever just needs a good burning!!

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