Boiler casing holes non-repairable?

kabel · 11 Aug 2009

Hi all,

Found this site while trying to find out any info I could about the problem I was presented with today and thought I'd try asking here too.

Just bought a house that apparently had never had the boiler serviced so was one of the first jobs I arranged to be done....

(Boiler is a Glow-Worm Ultimate 50FF which is controlled(I think? - I'm still working it all out!) by the Boilermate 2000 in the airing cupboard.)

So the guy came round today.....he's put the boiler 'at risk' because of some small holes/gaps in the joins that have appeared in the upper corners of the metal casing at the rear (from the metal contracting and expanding with heat) thus not making it sealed anymore. I'm being told that the only solution is for replacement boiler?? Even though there's nothing wrong with the boiler, just the casing?

Is this really right?

He said this problem has become apparent with these models in the last 6 or 7 months and that the manufacturers are saying that they are not allowed to repair the holes to ensure they are sealed. There are some smaller gaps in the corners of the front panel also which I guess could be replaced easily. The CO level is below 10ppm when checked today.

I guess I just want to know what if what I'm being told is correct, if it isn't what are my options and what would anyone would recommend me to do.

Thanks in advance for any replies

gaspro1981 · 11 Aug 2009

i've never heard anything about this from gloworm and if this was entirely true i would have expected this to have been made common knowledge within the trade

i cannot think why you could not use a suitable high temperature silicone sealant to overcome this situation

all sounds like that someone is perhaps trying to generate some work

kirkgas · 11 Aug 2009

gaspro1981 said:
i've never heard anything about this from gloworm and if this was entirely true i would have expected this to have been made common knowledge within the trade

i cannot think why you could not use a suitable high temperature silicone sealant to overcome this situation

all sounds like that someone is perhaps trying to generate some work

high temp silicone, while it MIGHT work would be seen as a temp repair, and if it did fail later could render the person who fitted the silicone on the end of a RIDDOR, in the real world i have seen it done and it seems to work, but in these terrible days of litigation i would not do it for a customer to save them money, if someone chooses to do it for themselves then that is a different thing

mattylad · 11 Aug 2009

What about 2 small sheets of the same steel sheeting bolted through with the equivalent of an asbestos gasket ?

nickso · 11 Aug 2009

isnt the 50ff positive pressure? any repairs like the ones mentioned above would be AR if i found them not to mention RIDDOR and just generally dodgy.

nicknox · 11 Aug 2009

Ultimates are negative pressure.

gaspro1981 · 11 Aug 2009

if it was me and it was on my shoulders i wouldn't have any problems sealing it with high temp silicone

Agile · 11 Aug 2009

To the OP.

We have not heard anything about this boiler! He may be talking a lot of lies to try to get himself a replacement boiler job.

Nevertheless, none of us would do a bodge job. You have to ignore Mattylad, he is not gas registered but unfortunately no one stops him giving dodgy advice on here.

You could call Glow Worm and without telling them anything just ask them if there are any scares or warnings about your model ! I doubt it.

The next thing is to ensure you exclude him from quoting for fitting any replacement boiler if you agree with me that his tactics do not seem honest ! You could also tell him that G-W have not mentioned any warnings and point blank ask him why he told you there was a problem.

Tony

Paul Barker · 11 Aug 2009

My two peneth

As you aren't using manufacturer's part for casing seal affecting repair it is AR and Riddor even if the boiler is negative pressure.

If the silicone bvecomes unstuck it is at that moment made ID and Riddor even if the boiler is negative pressure.

TOFO it.

glasgowgas · 11 Aug 2009

fire cement

mickyg · 11 Aug 2009

if there's a hole through the case you'll see it from the outside. take a picture fella and post it up. we like pictures, gets people all excited

the thing about this being a common fault on these boilers sounds like garbage to me. If there is a hole its probably caused by a leak thats never been fixed.

Rob · 11 Aug 2009

Ive seen this!

With some careful manipulation and whacking (the boiler) I got it back into shape.

Its a shame if they're isn't anything else wrong with the boiler but if there's nothing that can be done it goes.

mattylad · 11 Aug 2009

Tony, why do you have to be such an insulting arrogant ****?

I did not give advice I asked a question.
And my question sounds about as feasible as using silicone sealant!

If you notice my signature it says I am not a pro so anything I say should be checked first & I'm quite sure that if it would work more would agree to the suggestion.

There is however no need for you to be so insulting.

****!

g20 · 11 Aug 2009

matty you get so much abuse on this site, it confuses me as to why you actually keep posting

Agile · 11 Aug 2009

And you read the professional's response to the suggestion of using silicone!

If someone follows your suggestion, even if worded as a question, and kills themself then do you have Professional Indemnity Insurance ?

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