Is she, or isn't he?

Do you think Caster Semenya is

  • A man

    Votes: 20 57.1%
  • A woman

    Votes: 7 20.0%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 8 22.9%

  • Total voters
    35
  • Poll closed .
Simple test, tonight after you have all been out and had a skinfull have a look at the picture again and i bet you still wouldn`t
 
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Sure fire test, send he/she down the streets of Berlin, with a bierkeller in the distances and shoe shop in between.
If the steins come before the size nines; bloke :!:
If new shoes before the booze; bird :!:
 
So if she/he/it has the correct reproduction equipment (natural, not surgery) but has some sort of x chromo-deficiencies not of her making (look up Toppers post), is she then considered a man or a woman from the sport authorities??

If she has not modified anything herself, but is simply what she is then she has to keep her status. Obviously she has then a clear physiological adantage, but so does every top athlete. We could probably detect that many athletes have abnormal genetic mutations which makes them faster or stronger. should they be banned as well?
 
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I feel very sorry for HER, why couldn't they have carried out the testing discreetly and shame on anyone that voted on this thread.
 
JohnD said:
-- through some freak of nature.

Maybe (s)he's a pseudohermaphrodite. They're rare but it happens. In a normal developing embryo of either sex, two sets of gonads begin to grow. Also, because nature is always trying to make a female, a hollow forms which is the beginning of a womb.

At some point in a male embryo the Y chromosome exerts its influence and the proto-testes start to make testosterone. This is what is needed to turn it into a boy. That hollow flips inside out to form a scrotum and the proto-ovaries wither away.

In a psuedohermaphrodite, the female development is halted but the male development never happens. The hollow forms a short, dead-ended vagina. The clitoris may be elongated but it doesn't grow into a willy. (Excuse the swear word; I have to use it because the swear word detector won't accept *****! :mad: :mad: :mad: ) The baby looks female in every way so the mother isn't lying when she says she gave birth to a girl.
 
The glasgow description of this is far shorter and to the point.

Fannybaws
 
"She is very upset, but on the surface she is OK. The other athletes are treating her as if nothing has happened. At the leaving party she will dance with everyone else. It is right that we do not let this dominate her thoughts."

That mood is reflected by villagers in Limpopo, who are preparing a enthusiastic celebration for Semenya when she returns on Tuesday, partly as a message of defiance to the watching world. At 18 years old, Caster Semenya is quite probably frightened and confused. Her dignity has been attacked, her profoundest sense of self laid bare with potentially damaging psychological consequences. But when she returns home, she seems assured of a special welcome from family and friends who have never sat in judgment on her nature. They have always accepted her simply as Caster, the girl who can outrun them all.
 
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