Wickes plaster bonding agent...

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...it's, it's, it's...PINK?

I turned up at a job today to start a two day job plastering a rather large lounge. Ceiling had more or less been stripped of paper by client although had to strip a bit more off as there were a few patched left which i didn't want to leave in place (we've all been there!!). Walls are original 1930's artexed with a nice shiny paint covering it. Client had sanded peaks of bumps as per my instructions (I'd warned of the possibility of asbestos already) so I had some sort of a key.

I'd planned on giving it two nice thick coats of PVA before skimming the walls but the client had, quite keenly, been out and bought all the materials for the job (even though my quote included materials and my trailer was full of the materials needed - bonus). In with the bags of multi and stuff there was a couple of tubs of Wickes Plaster Bonding Agent which claims to be effective on smooth, low suction, low key surfaces. Destructions say stir (it contains aggregate - just a fine sand really) and apply neat.

So, I though why not give it a go. proper coverage was difficult due to the surface of the wall but the same problem would have arisen if I'd been applying PVA. It's suposed to be left for 4 - 5 hours but I was leaving it overnight as I'm skimming walls tomorrow. Anyhow, five hours later and it's still not dried properly. When touched, the sandy content doesn't stay on the wall - it sticks to my fingers.

So, I'm now getting worried. Am I going to turn up tomorrow to skim the walls only to find that as I spread, the sand in this stuff ends up all over the place and scratches the surface of my skim? Am I going to need to skim it twice?

Has anyone used this stuff before? What's the difference between this stuff and PVA with a handful of sand mixed in (with a little red food colouring for good measure)? It was apparently £11 for a tub which states 3kg. However, it doesn't look much more than about 2 litres of PVA! Expensive stuff.

regards

Fred.
 
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coloured pva is a good idea, as anyone who has painted it on a white surface will know, you can see where you've been. ;)
 
oh dear :cry: it`s not as good as Thistle Bond-it........I think I might try and re-negotiate and use bondit (green ;) )costs, but I don`t like the sound of the stuff client got ........who would get blame if skim don`t take :?:
 
I usually roller PVA at 3-1 or4-1 over artex and leave it for a good 24 hours then roller it again before I skim over it . Haven't skimmed over artex for a while now but it always worked ok for me....Never used Bond-it and not got a Wickes where I am ....
 
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Fred Flintstone disappeared from the forum over 2 years ago. Why are you replying now?
 
Didn't notice till you pointed it out joe :oops: but still it might help some newcomers to the site eh? ;)
 
too many ppl worry about plaster going off to quick and then want to totally kill off the suction .if you think about it, when you plaster walls and ceilings what makes the plaster stick to the ceiling or wall?? SUCTION...
when plaster is spread ,it creates a suction effect and thats why when you plaster on low suction backgrounds such as smooth concrete or glossed walls,there isn't anything to hold the plaster (suction) and is then better to use wba or gypbond which when applied is rough enough for the plaster to grip...this is basic plastering knowledge i learn't over 20yrs ago.
really you should be looking to control the suction with pva and not to kill it totally.
 

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