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It's excellent thinking, given that you had a problem which could have killed you or anyone in the family in a few milliseconds the next time it bit, and that you have neither the knowledge nor the equipment to diagnose and locate the problem yourself.
So why are you doing the other 25%?Im gas engineer3/4 of the work i do can be done by the village idiot.
But seriously - you're a gas engineer, right?
If someone reported a gas related problem to you which you knew could kill them, or other people in the house, instantly, and at any time, and with no further warning, and you could tell that they had neither the equipment nor the knowledge to find the cause of the problem, what would your professional advice on an internet forum be?
If someone reported a gas related problem to you which you knew could kill them, or other people in the house, instantly, and at any time, and with no further warning, and you could tell that they had neither the equipment nor the knowledge to find the cause of the problem, what would your professional advice on an internet forum be?
I still don't understand why the circuit was still live if he had an earth touching a live.
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Hi Janner,
Maybe he wired it himself and couldn't be bothered to connect all those tiresome green and yellow wires to anything.
After all, they don't do anything do they? (apart from maybe save your life)
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dpj1973
oh yeah, this community is really worth while, as i said the problem is sorted. no vomitting blood etc
As for your wife smelling gas and having head-aches, dont need a gas engineer to diagnose that....does it seem to appear when you come home mikhail.....that aint gas fella You must be a real busy man
Coljack, your must be a laugh a minute.....just not this one
As for your wife smelling gas and having head-aches, dont need a gas engineer to diagnose that....does it seem to appear when you come home mikhail.....that aint gas fella
You must be a real busy man Coljack, your must be a laugh a minute.....just not this one
Do you connect you generator with a widow maker too?
oh yeah, this community is really worth while, as i said the problem is sorted. no vomitting blood etc
As for your wife smelling gas and having head-aches, dont need a gas engineer to diagnose that....does it seem to appear when you come home mikhail.....that aint gas fella
Coljack, your must be a laugh a minute.....just not this one
By the time I started the read this thread it was already three pages long. While I'm not a massive fan of the "call an electrician" response which it seems we're all hearing more and more often as of late, you have to respect the fact that every member providing advice on this forum does so free of charge in their own personal time.
If it's clear that providing you with further information could well cause danger to yourself and others, I would say anyone on here is more than within their rights to refuse to supply said information. To then throw your toys out of the pram and come out with petty insults is something that I would expect to see in the plumbing forum, but certainly not here...
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holmslaw
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Janner, if someone reported a gas related problem to you which you knew could kill them, or other people in the house, instantly, and at any time, and with no further warning, and you could tell that they had neither the equipment nor the knowledge to find the cause of the problem, what would your professional advice on an internet forum be?
An RCD is not the answer to shoddy workmanship.
An RCD will not stop you receiving a shock, just the length of time you receive one.
G
Goldberg
Don't shoot the messenger.
The advice is sound, not least because of this:
Until you learn what an electric current is, you're better off leaving electrics to an electrician whom you pay to fix the problem and who is insured to do competently the things that you can't.
I'm thinking that the other 1/4 can be done by two village idiots.Im gas engineer
that was a serious question..
my plumber was not available for a few weeks and I wanted to get the hob in so that I can put the oven in and finish the kitchen up..
it's not illegal to do gas in your own home.. so I was going to have a go myself..
as it turned out, he finished a job early today and popped round to do it..
took him an hour and I recon he bodged it...
it's safe but really ugly..
I think that’s because
So you have a spur taken from a junction box under the floor. I guess only the earth wire in the spur cable was touching the live, which will only affect the socket at the end of the spur and anything plugged into it.
The earth in the spur was "floating" at mains potential, as was the exposed metal parts of the washing machine plugged into it. There is no return path for the current, so the over-current device (mcb/fuse) in the consumer unit will not be troubled. This is one of the reasons why maintaining the continuity of the protective (earth) conductors throughout an electrical circuit is so important.
The current found its return path when the OP touched the washing machine - unfortunately it was through him. The current flowing through him when he got his belt was not sufficient to trouble his mcb, so the circuit remained live. However an RCD would have detected an imbalance and tripped as soon as he touched the washing machine. But as ricicle has correctly stated above, an RCD is not the answer to shoddy workmanship.
Now the OP has told us his hands were nice and wet and he was in the process of plumbing in his washing machine. If he was holding a nice earthy copper water pipe with one of those wet hands and touched his washing machine with the other, then he is lucky to be alive. Electrical current straight across the chest through the heart under these circumstances is not, I submit, a good thing.
I wonder if he'll ever tell us what advice he would give if someone described a gas related problem to him which he knew could kill at any time?
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